JNP replies again!  And once again they do not provide power numbers.

In fact they no longer even mention the question of output power in their response, and snipped all mention of it from my message -- they turn the discussion entirely to their "challenge" and how I must be a coward if I don't take them up on it.

I ask again: JNP: What's the output power of the motor? Are you courageous enough to state it in public?

I think it's become clear that they will /never/ state the output power of the motor, not for me, not for Vortex, not for anyone, ever, in public.

Go ahead, JNP: Prove me wrong: State the output power of the motor, when running on 20 watts of input power!

But they won't.

And if they don't come up with something more interesting than a string of insults and an "I-dare-you", I probably won't forward any more of these missives to the list.


JNPCo. wrote:
Another off-list response from JNP.  I've found these emails very
enlightening.



[Ad hominem:]

Considering your demonstrated stupidity, I'm glad to have enlightened you.

You need all the help you can get. ;-)


They're getting nastier at this point, and have decided to act angry,
but they still provide no value for output power.  (I say "they" --
I'm not sure who at JNP wrote this message; the original one was
signed Evan Soule, but this one carries no signature.)

They've resorted to ad hominem attacks, and have also resorted to the
"playground tactic" of playing "I-dare-you" ... but still no numbers.



[Another ad hominem:]

Ah, the weasel attempts to let himself the hook by ignoring Joseph Newman challenge.

Quite expected.


[Distracting from the question:]

Joseph Newman has issued you a challenge. Either you will accept it or you will not.

Keep your eye on the ball:  What's the output power?

Still no answer on that one -- and I predict there never will be.



[Another ad hominem coming:]

(I predict you will not because you are a coward.)

Calling it a "playground tactic" -- in an attempt to ignore the challenge to you --- is itself the tactic of a coward.

Once again:

*"Let's cut to the chase. I challenge you (Stephen A. Lawrence) to come to Mobile and I will match my $10,000 to your $10,000 to see if you can bring a CONVENTIONAL MOTOR to my facility and turn a 1,265-lb rotary at 100 rpms and power that 375-lb positive displacement pump and pump water continuously (as shown in the video) at a 5 foot rise --- and do all of the above using even 40 WATTS input -- which is more than TWICE the input used by my energy machine."*

*Come on, Lawrence --- accept the $10,000 challenge .... if you have any guts!*

Lawrence, unlike yourself, more than 30 scientists and engineers -- who were sincere and who did have curiosity, inspected, tested and signed affidavits that the technology operates as stated.

But you haven't stated the output power, so saying it operates "as stated" is pretty meaningless.



 From the beginning they were open-minded and willing to LOOK.

You, however, will not accept the challenge to you issued by Joseph Newman (I predict) and that will demonstrate to my satisfaction that you are a gutless coward.

And you will not state the output power.



Unlike yourself, those scientists and engineers were curious, intellectually honest, and polite.

You began this interchange by accusing Joseph Newman of being involved in a "scam".

So, Lawrence the challenge to you continues.

Can you provide a conventional motor than does what is described above?

For those individuals who are truly sincere and intellectually honest (unlike Lawrence) and wish to learn more about the technology for themselves, I invite them to visit:

*http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1610087835473512086&hl=en*


And look carefully to see if you can figure out the output power from the video.

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