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From: Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 9:23:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention
Thanks for pointing this out, Philip. I have not read of Richard Rose,
but I know of many other people who have acquired extraordinary insight.
In addition, some people have also been able to master some of the
abilities Sai Baba exhibits. As with all things, these talents occur
throughout the population to varying degree. However, only Sai Baba has
these abilities in complete form and totally at his control. Besides, he
is using the abilities to focus attention on a message worth hearing.
This is not always the case. Sai Baba says that additional men having
the same abilities are alive now in various countries and presently at
different ages who will carry the message into the future. Keep your
eyes open.
Ed
PHILIP WINESTONE wrote:
> Ed,
>
> I wonder if you've ever heard of a man they called the "Backwoods
> Buddha"... Look him up on the 'Net if you're interested...
>
> P.
>
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> From: Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 7:30:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Science of Intention
>
>
>
> Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > OrionWorks wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for bringing Sai Baba back to my attention, Ed. How foolish of
> >> me to have temporarily forgotten him.
> >>
> >> Isn't it interesting that someone with his unique perception on
> >> reality, combined with his ability to manipulate reality (seemingly
> >> the fundamental laws of physics) as Sai does remains, for the most
> >> part, an undiscovered resource of the potentiality of humanity.
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry, but I have to ask this... If he can work miracles, and if
> > he's here to "fix up the mess" in any way shape or form, what's he
> > actually doing to fix things up?
>
> Sai Baba is presently helping remake India by supporting schools he
> founded that teach his philosophy along with modern technology. As he
> says, a person can not remake the world without first remaking his own
> country. Obviously, the spirit world believe this is easier to do in
> India than elsewhere. I agree. The spirit world attempted to do this in
> the middle East 2000 years ago, but now look at the mess.
> >
> > Turn it around: Sai Baba is a miracle worker and yet his impact has
> > apparently been so slight that people outside of India are nearly
> > unaware of him. Why is that?
>
> A person only knows what they seek to learn. The information about Sai
> Baba is easily available, but not in the American press. But then,
> what's new about tat?
> >
> > The world abounds with problems which cry out for the touch of a
miracle
> > worker, from lack of clean water for humans to lack of usable habitat
> > for polar bears. Surely someone gifted with physical powers which
allow
> > him to manipulate reality at a fundamental level should be doing more
> > with this capability than just using it as a sort of publicity
stunt to
> > get folks to come and listen to his sermons?
>
> One man, no matter how talented, can not do it alone. His role is to
> teach other people how to solve the problems. After all, it was mankind
> who created the problems in the first place. We need to learn how to
> stop doing this.
> >
> > Philosophers ultimately wield great influence over events, it is true.
> > But whatever power sent Sai Baba here must have intended him to be
more
> > than a philosopher, else why grant him such astonishing *physical*
> > abilities?
>
> His message will eventually start another religion, as have the messages
> of the other messengers. However, this takes time. Gradually, this
> religion will be corrupted, as has happened every time repair was
> attempted, and the process will be repeated. Gradually, mankind will
> learn to avoid religion, as some of us have already mastered.
> >
> > So, what is he doing with his powers, aside from healing a relative
> > handful of individuals? (In a world of 7 billion, hands-on healing of
> > individuals can never reach more than a relative handful, of course.
> > Another bit of perspective: Bill Gates, with his charitable work
which
> > includes large scale vaccination programs, has surely already reached
> > more people and prevented more disease than any single hands-on healer
> > could cure in a lifetime. Yet Gates is no miracle worker; surely
someone
> > who can bend reality to his will should be able to do better than
Gates.)
>
> The individual is not as important as the whole of mankind. Mankind can
> only advance as fast as a certain level of understanding develops. This
> is a gradual process. Meanwhile individuals come and go, with each
> adding, or sometimes subtracting from this understanding.
> >
> > Money could not be a problem for a miracle worker, of course -- it
takes
> > only the slightest ability to affect the laws of chance, or the
teeniest
> > ability to predict the future, to allow one to amass as much wealth as
> > you could possibly need. And it could be done subtly, as well;
all the
> > world over there are stock markets which shower riches on those with
> > true prescience (or good judgment), and the phenomenon of getting rich
> > playing the market is common enough that it would not raise cries of
> > "Demon!" if someone with true second sight were to use it that way.
>
> You are thinking too small. If this talent were used, it would
> destabilize the markets and cause all kinds of unwanted attention. Sai
> Baba gets his money from gifts, which is easier do do than playing the
> markets.
>
> Ed
> >
> >
> >>
> >> By your account there are at least 150 books that have been
written on
> >> Baba. And yet Baba remains primarily an unknown individual,
> >> particularly within our objectively oriented western culture. It
would
> >> seem that collectively speaking we have made a tact pact to
ignore the
> >> significance of what Sai teaches us, perhaps because the majority of
> >> us would for the moment prefer to remain transfixed within the
> >> manufactured belief that reality manipulates us rather than the other
> >> way around.
> >>
> >> If history is any indication it would not surprise me if the accounts
> >> of Sai Baba will be more widely known and better respected by the
> >> inhabitants of this planet a thousand years from now.
> >>
> >> Sooner or later, all children must grow up, some kicking and
screaming
> >> the whole way.
> >>
> >> Thanks for all the Ashes, Baba.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Steven Vincent Johnson
> >> www.OrionWorks.com
> >> www.zazzle.com/orionworks
> >>
> >
> >
>
