On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > On Aug 8, 2008, at 1:26 AM, David Jonsson wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Robin van Spaandonk < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:37:57 -0800: >> Hi, >> >> IIRC nerve cells conduct through a process of K+ Na+ exchange. I don't >> think >> they are electrically very conducting, hence any such signal would likely >> be >> heavily damped, and result mostly in heat. The considerable processing >> power of >> the human brain is due primarily to vast parallel processing, rather than >> a >> "fast" processor. > > >> > Axons are not good as antennas since currents travel only in radial > direction. > > > > The ion exchange mechanism refers to the manner in which nerve > *impulses*travel. This has nothing to do with the manner in which nerves > might be > externally stimulated, nor with the manner electromagnetic waves can travel > longitudinally across the cytoplasm surface. Clearly, cytoplasm is an > electrolyte, and thus a conductor. Brain function is readily disturbed by > fairly low induced voltages cause by even low frequency fields induced by > low voltage coils. Voltages induced longitudinally in axons, provided the > voltages are large enough, can result in ordinary potentials across the > synapses, which can then effect ordinary nerve impulses if in the necessary > pre-condition to do so. However, that is not the important thing with > regard to stimulation at microwave frequencies. Neurons do not fire at > microwave frequencies. What matters are things like the fact that even at > fairly low voltages, molecules like starches can be polymerized by microwave > radiation, and water molecules can be converted into hydrogen peroxide. It > is well known that oxidants are cancer related, yet many people produce them > en mass in their microwave ovens and then consume them daily. My contention > also goes beyond this to say that nerves and blood vessels can act as > antennae for microwave radiation and concentrate its effects, as well as > amplify the induced voltage at selected places through low Q resonances. > > Meat absorbs microwave energy fairly well, else it wouldn't cook. Get some > calves brain and put it in a microwave oven for a while and see what > happens. This of course doesn't prove my point about the existence of > voltage multiplying low Q resonances, but it does demonstrate that, despite > the fact the microwave photons are non-ionizing, they can perform > significant chemical changes in the brain. > > When it comes to cancer, it is only necessary to create a few cancerous > cells, and mitosis handles the rest. > Here I strongly object. Cancer is a symptom of immunity deficiency. Typically all humans get cancer several times per hour but the immunity defense system kills those cells. > That is to say it is only necessary to do enough genetic damage such that a > single cell, or small cluster of cells, is genetically changed yet still > reproduces. A fairly low Q energy focusing effect, even if the energy is > focused in a microscopic volume, can be capable of achieving ionizing > effects. > No, focusing is not enough. Focusing can never increase frequency which is necessary for ionization. You need something which increases the frequency. Non linear effects in the medium the radiation travels through can do this. This is what I previously referred to as breaking waves. > > Even without energy focusing effects, microwave energy can create oxidants, > and long term exposure to oxidants in cytoplasm can create genetic damage. > So what? Without a defunct immunity defense that doesn't matter. David -- David Jonsson Sweden phone callto:+46703000370
