Yes with serious people doing serious research interfacing with a closed minded establishment.
It takes patience but the model is clear: have theories/suppositions that are testable so a project can have milestones. A bit like a pop song, a project needs a hook - something catchy and robust that can be comprehended by largely non-technical managers - "We predict such and such". -----Original Message----- From: Robin van Spaandonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 September 2008 23:12 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Enlightenment In reply to Remi Cornwall's message of Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:25:45 +0100: Hi, [snip] >The old guard and new feudalists want to return us to, dare I say it, state >housing (one size fits all), cars as luxury items (global warming), no >foreign travel (global warming), composting allotment owning vegans >(methane, global warming), lights out at nine pm (global warming), >isolationist, free thought limited, little surfs living short miserable >lives. [snip] The "new feudalists" are simply short sighted, fear ridden and ignorant. However ignorance can be cured by applying knowledge. You just need to show them how we can have our cake and eat it too, and they will change like the wind. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

