In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:47:49 -0400: Hi, [snip] >I like this quote from the airturbineengine page: > >> The air we breathe is the same air that drives the AATE; no wind >> required. This is not a perpetual motion machine. > >It runs forever with no fuel or energy input, using air but without >requiring wind (or, by implication, a temperature differential) but it's >not a perpetual motion machine. And the difference is what, exactly...? > >Sure, sure, everybody knows perpmo is impossible, and this is anything >but that, so it can't be a perpmo machine. Ho, hum. [snip] That's what I initially thought too, however it wouldn't be a perpmo machine if it obtained energy from the air. That is available in two (possibly 3) forms:-
1) thermal energy 2) nuclear energy (fusion) 3) Hydrino energy (from the Hydrogen in water vapour) The second (and possibly the third) would likely produce ionizing radiation sufficient to fog a photographic plate. Another possibility is that it taps into the energy available in the lower van Allen belt (cyclotron radiation) at about 200-300 Hz = 12000-18000 rpm. Rotating at around 30000 rpm it could be on a second or third harmonic (due to the extent of the belt, and the variation in strength of the Earth's magnetic field, the frequency is somewhat spread). Air passing through the device could leave internal components with a static charge, and this rotating static charge could synchronize with rotating charge in the belt. (See work previously reported in the press and discussed on this list regarding wireless resonant transmission of power). 200-300 Hz has a wavelength of 1500-1000 km which puts at least part of the lower belt within a single wavelength, which in turn meets the requirement for resonant transmission. (The lower belt is the one where the protons are trapped, and it's the protons that carry the lions share of the kinetic energy available from the solar wind). If this is how it works, it would certainly be able to at least meet all our transportation energy requirements, and the power density could probably be improved upon by deliberately increasing the static charge. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
