Edmund Storms wrote:

Jed, do you still think these flaws were accidental, a result of
incompetence, or just sloppy design?

Well, naturally I have my suspicions. Who wouldn't? But I still think that I cannot know the answer to this question without evidence. I mean evidence that would stand up in court: testimony, incriminating documents and the like. The only way to get such evidence would be to have the powers of a District Attorney or a Congressman holding a Congressional Investigation. I doubt that a reporter could dig up anything definitive. In other words, I would have to be able to compel witnesses to tell the truth, and I would have to have warrants to look for documents inside the company.

There have been such investigations by D.A.s and the Congress.

In a sense, it does not matter what brought about this situation. Whether it was stupidity or deliberate, the effect on elections, and Diebold's legal responsibility is similar, although I suppose a deliberate design would be a criminal offense. Knowing that the machine is faulty and not doing anything about it probably also a criminal offense. I wouldn't know about that, but if I worked there, I sure wouldn't keep it secret! You can bet that if anyone goes to jail, it will be some lowly programmer.

Here is 2004 news report:

"A California court has approved a $2.6 million settlement between Diebold and the State of California and Alameda County. The state and county had sued Diebold for fraudulent claims about the security of its electronic voting machines. . . ."

The settlement is the fruit of a suit filed in September by California Attorney General Bill Lockyer, who argued that Diebold was not truthful about the security and reliability of its electronic voting machines.

Lockyer, who earlier dropped a criminal probe into Diebold, claimed that Diebold provided Alameda County with software that was not certified by the government. . . .

Apparently Attorney General Lockyer decided there was not enough evidence for a criminal case. That does not prove there were no criminal offenses! It could just mean they are good at covering them up.


Do you think the Republicans are not out to steal the election if they could?

I think many of them would if they could, but who knows if have the guts to do it. A lot of Democrats would steal elections too. Not Obama as far as I know. Maybe some of his misguided supporters would . . .

Recently, I had a discussion with a Democratic party election official from Iowa. That is, a party member delegated to run the primary caucus. She and the others selected for this job are supposed to be neutral between Clinton, Obama and the other candidates, and to enforce fairness, the debate rules of order, and so on. She told me appalling stories of misbehavior by Clinton's supporters. They used old time techniques such as stuffing ballot boxes, or locking the doors and turning off the lights and then telling Obama supporters the meeting was cancelled (or 'it is already over -- you missed it, go home!') and then holding the meeting with their own supporters only. She was astounded at their chutzpah. After the caucus she was a firm Obama supporter. I heard of New York City districts with thousands of black residents that somehow did not tally a single Obama primary vote.


To me, this is the most obvious effort to steal an election that I can imagine and, what is worse, it helped Bush win. Will it work again?

Probably not. You can't steal an election if the vote is high enough against you. People will figure out what you are up to. Take, for example, the New York City districts that supposedly recorded no Obama votes. People shrugged that off during the primary election because everyone knew that Clinton would take New York no matter what. It has a bad smell, but you can't fight every injustice. On the other hand, if those same districts in the General Election show only McCain votes, and not a single Obama vote, you know there would be outrage, and probably widespread rioting in the streets. People would not stand up for that!

Obama's lead in New York is so large, I am sure there will be no Republican vote theft in New York in the General Election, and the Democrats wouldn't bother. They are sure to win. There may be theft in states with close elections, such as Ohio, Florida and North Carolina. Between the Bradley effect and likely vote theft in places like Ohio, I think there is a good chance that McCain will win. Obama has only a thin lead in any case. He is ahead by only 2% among "likely voters (traditional)." In other words, when they give weight to the poll data to make the distribution equal to the usual turnout, taking into account that older white people nearly always vote, and young black people seldom do, then Obama's advantage is only 2% with 2% margin of error. (This a perfectly legitimate statistical analysis technique. It isn't as if they are actually disenfranchising people -- it is only a poll!)

See: http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx

In other words, without strong turnout by young people and minorities, there is no way he will win. There is no telling whether they will turn out. Obama campaign people are well aware of this and they are making great efforts to get people to the polls. By the way, anyone who supports Obama and wishes to join them at the local campaign headquarters is welcome to do so. If you are in Atlanta and you have a spare portable computer, please lend it to them. (Contact me for details.) If you support McCain, let me emulate Clinton's supporters and encourage you to stay home and not even bother to vote. You are going to win in Georgia anyway, so stay home and take it easy.

- Jed

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