im confused by your use of the term, donate a proton.  the ion h-
still is the proton. there is just an extra electron on it.  when
accepting a proton, you get h2 and na+ for the salt formation with
whatever gave the proton.  To have it "donate a proton" would mean
creating a stable na, which isnt going to happen, or an extra
electron, and then why would the proton steal an electron from helium?

Basically, you would need an electron sink to get this to happen, or a
neutral, stable, monoatomic sodium, and I'd be a HELL of a lot more
interested in the properties of that little gem than the transient
hydrogen, wouldn't you?

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The salt NaH is a strong base, meaning that it normally donates the negative
> ion H- instead of the proton in liquid solution .... However, on reading up
> on it, there is more to it than meets the eye.
>
> .... also despite the combination with the lightest gas, Na with H  - the
> resultant salt NaH is 40% denser than the Na metal, which admittedly is very
> light, but still...
>
> Those two factoids alone should tell you something is unusual with this
> species. Another unusual and related subject is helium gas as a solvent,
> since helium is so "hydrogen-like".
>
> If you think about it - and this suggestion may be way 'off-base' (so to
> speak) but in the event NaH were to begin to ionize and once in a while act
> like an acid, instead of a base when solvated by helium-  i.e. occasionally
> donate the proton - then here is the beauty of it (in the context of BLP).
>
> Caveat: I cannot find a reference (after a half hour search) that this has
> been documented to occur in a statistically relevant fashion, so maybe it is
> your basic no-go.
>
> Anyway - If the proton did occasionally ionize instead of the anion with an
> inert gas, and assuming this could happen fairly often: then the proton is
> poised to temporarily grab one of the helium electrons for even a very short
> time, sub-nanosecond - then you have transient monatomic hydrogen within a
> helium catalyst at a resonant level - made to order for hydrinos. The race
> is on.
>
> The only question then: is the time frame short enough for 'shrinkage' to
> happen statistically often (before the proton "returns home") ? IOW is the
> shrinkage reaction extremely fast, relative to reversible ionization ?
>
> Dunno. This could all be about "time" on the quantum level... but the fact
> that there is the energy anomaly Mike mentioned with the simple mix of the
> two - that alone raises the possibility, and makes it worth investigating
> all the angles, no matter how seemingly bizarre, no?
>
> Jones
>

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