Oh no, emailing again

On filling the tank have a lag of material (or even put it in the tank with
high surface area) that changes phase so would tend to suppress the
adiabatic heating but release this energy back to the gas. That would make
it easier to cram a lot of charge into the tank without the tendency of
fighting the rise in temperature and needing to have excessively high
pressure tanks.

Use gearing on the electrical regenerative braking. Make the dump load
variable so the force felt back at the wheels is not suddenly large (due to
all the gearing) but can go right down to slow speeds. This would be better
than a compressor which is just a Carnot engine.

Would be a fun project. Haven't got the time or resources. You know how long
getting funds takes. 

I especially like the 'active tank'/compensated tank concept using a phase
changing buffer to keep the heat and pressure down in the tank.

Must get on now.

-----Original Message-----
From: Remi Cornwall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 October 2008 10:39
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Vo]:TOTALLY SEEN IT NOW. Tata Motors - full of compressed air!

The penny has dropped completely now. Totally see it.

"H." at QMUL is right but so am I.

Imagine we somehow get the brake heat back to the tank. The shell could be
glowing red hot but if it doesn't have time to equilibrate the ****charge in
the tank would be used up in the normal fashion like nothing happened****. 

Heat conduction is a 2D process. Potentially slow.

Somehow getting that fraction of the brake back to the tank by COMPRESSION
(a 3D process acting on all the gas) would be more efficient. Hence "H."s
suggestion at QMUL that people use a SMALL regenerator tank to kick the next
power demand.

However...

If the tank was ***space filled*** with an electric element (so large
surface area) and glowed very hotly, most of the 'dead' k.e. *would* be
returned to the tank very quickly before the next power demand...

But electrical regenerative braking is not good at slow speeds and won't
static brake.


The best suggestion and they probably do it already is to lag the tank at
the compressing plant. The area between the adiabatic line and the
isothermal line (which the tank would drop to without lagging) is just
wasted energy.

Good fun. Back to TEC and other stuff I do.




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