Just to throw another stick on the fire, have any of the very
religious contributors to this discussion considered that a real
reality exists outside of what we call the physical reality and their
religion is simply an imperfect way to describe this reality? The
explanation based on religion is imperfect because the description is
centuries behind what is known based on observation, analysis of
history, and modern logic. This is like a person trying to study
chemistry starting with a book written in the 14th century. We all
would find this approach idiotic, because as scientists, we are
trained to look at reality with objectivity and to take nothing for
granted. Yet, scientists will accept a belief about the spirit world
without question. I have always found this conflict between how
science and religion are treated to be very strange. A very large data
base now describes the situation in the spirit world and various
messengers have been sent to provide more detail, but this evidence is
ignored in preference to a belief based on no evidence at all, except
what the promoters of the religion say is true. How does a person who
values logic and science explain this situation?
Ed
On Nov 3, 2008, at 3:46 PM, OrionWorks wrote:
Jeff Fink Said:
...
You may wonder how good of a Christian I am? Well,
I am not as good as I need to be, but I am trying.
I often wonder how good a human being I am to myself and to others as
well. I know I could use improvement, and I am trying.
Bible prophesy, which has a habit of coming true, indicates
that at the end of the age there will be a one world religion
that will punish Christian believers, who refuse to deny Jesus,
with execution by beheading. Read: Revelation 20: 4
I ask, "Is there any major religion on the fast track to
world domination that hates the concept of Jesus as God, and
that punishes infidels with beheading?" It would seem to
benefit most of us to postpone the arrival of that religious
system as long as possible.
Jeff
Collectively speaking when too many people at any period of history
tend to take the Bible, the Torah, the Koran, or any religious "book"
literally we will indeed experience the end of the world. If such a
horrible "prophesy" were to manifest I suspect it wouldn't be because
g*d finally came back and kicked everybody's ass out of the pool for
peeing in it. The "prophesy" would come about because everyone will be
shooting at their neighbors across geopolitical and religious
boundaries, all in the name of their g*d, the one and only true g*d.
At times like this I sometimes wish I could be an atheist. But alas, I
don't suspect a "godless" world would be any more of a solution to the
world's woes. From what I can tell stupidity, ignorance, hatred, and
bigotry know no geopolitical and/or philosophical boundaries. If there
were no religion in the world I suspect all the idiots, bigots, and
the ignorant would find some other all-mighty philosophy to hang their
hang-ups on.
I continue to hope that the Golden Rule for which Mike Carrell
refreshingly brought back to our attention will eventually prevail. It
is one of the most universally prevalent and respected laws known on
our planet.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
