More on eight... probably more than you ever wanted to know.

Yesterday I posted a suggestion, not quite to the level of hypothesis, that 
builds on a NASA finding - that there is natural but "hidden" cycle of magnetic 
pulses on earth, which comes from the Sun when their two magnetic fields 
briefly align (reference included below). 

There are many implications to this finding by NASA, but my initial one was 
that this natural resonance could "set" a kind of internal clock for any 
evolving species which needed an internal clock... We
know insects use magnetic fields for location and navigation, so it is
not a huge leap to take that further up the chain: that this regular pulsation 
could possibly be 'sensed' by the
subconscious brain, and perhaps it is a hidden part of our species' 
development. 

And one presumes- that evolving hand-in-hand, along with advancing 
intelligence, there is a survival benefit to having both an internal clock (and 
eventually an external clock so that all of us are in step); and furthermore, 
that way back in prehistory- this internal clock influenced the way we 
allocated time: into minutes and hours (along with borrowing the more obvious 
cosmological events like the lunar cycle of 12).

This influence would have factored-in the importance of a musical octave, as 
being relevant to larger and smaller lapse; so that 8 minute pulses reduce to 
the "minute" on the downside and the "hour" on the upside. The accuracy is only 
approximate, and consequently, the upside octave was shortened slightly, so as 
to fit in 12/24 scheme - which is the final mathematical division of solar day.

Anyway, I haven't yet been able to shoot this suggestion down - but thanks to 
Vince Cockeram, I am reminded of a most obvious causal connection to the period 
itself: eight minutes. I am embarrassed to say I missed it on the first 
go-around, but maybe that is a good thing - as in getting it all reconciled - 
htere is another mystery which was not there before. 

To paraphrase the basic info which you were taught early on in grade school: If 
you're at a concert sitting 330 meters away from the orchestra, then the sound 
you are hearing is about 1 second old. This is because sound travels in air at 
about 330 meters every second. Light travels much much faster travels ~300,000 
kilometers per second and the sun is approximately 150 million kilometers away 
on average, so it takes light about 500 seconds to get here, which is over 8 
minutes. When you look at the sun, you are seeing an image of the sun 8 minutes 
ago.

The distance from the Earth to the Sun varies because the Earth's orbit about 
the Sun is elliptical.At it's closest, the distance is 91,402,000 miles and 
it's farthest distance it is 94,512,000 miles.This gives an average distance of 
 92,957,000 miles. Light travels at 186,282 miles per second. Dividing the 
average distance by the speed of light gives 499.01225 seconds which is 
8.3168708 minutes. 

Rounded off, let's say 8 minutes and 18 seconds. Oops.

This is a slight problem in reconciling this actual period to the period NASA 
found, and that opens up an even broader question and inquiry - is the magnetic 
pulse slightly super-luminous -- or is the light pulse slightly retarded, or 
are they unconnected but coincidentally close ? ...and furthermore, is this all 
related ultimately to the various theories of "electrogravity"? i.e the 
magnetic pulse seems to arrive slightly faster than corresponding light, 
somewhat as if it were being "pushed" perhaps by a gravity wave to a higher 
acceleration than corresponding visible photons of light.

OK I will try to flesh this out more later on, but suffice it to say that in 
supernova, where we see both the flash and feel both the gravity wave billions 
of miles away, the gravity wave gets here first (by less than one percent but 
still?)... Yet, in the past, cosmologists have written-off this slight anomaly 
in a very shaky and suspect way - they attribute visible light to acutally 
being slowed or retarded due to intersellar "dust" and stray hydrogen etc. That 
is most unlikely and one could logically suspect that the interstellar mass 
should affect the gravity wave more than the light wave.

I think they "could be" wrong since they base evertyhting on the assumption 
that lightspeed applies to gravity (gravitons) equally well as to photons. 

It may or may not! ... but in truth we do not know for sure in 2008 ! 

IOW lightspeed  "probably" does apply, since the variance is so slight and so 
close; but that cannot be assumed IF this information from NASA is correct 
(about the much closer to home disparity, mentioned herein). More on this later.

Jones

Below is the provocative story from NASA about a cyclical "magnetic portal" 
between the earth and the sun.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/30oct_ftes.htm

It is associated with an approximate eight-minute-cycle. 

Funny, they do not mention Schumann Resonance in this article but maybe that 
resonance is too "fringe" for NASA... or maybe they are google-challenged.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances

In
trying to determine if there was a broader relevance to this 8-min
cycle, I spent some time googling, but nothing really stuck out as
being both relevant and very basic (in an historical sense that would
tie it to the present worldwide standard). 

There is a small
chance that the period of time we associate with an hour is somehow
related to this cycle, if only on a subconscious level.  After all, an
octave is a very basic resonance in music, and the "eight minutes" is
only approximate for the magnetic windowing - so if were slightly less,
especially in prehistory, then there is a rough fit to the eight cycles
giving this time period (now known as an hour) as a standard period
that early man had not problem with accepting across various cultures
... but that synchronicity would be much more convincing if there were
a "natural" resonance on earth which was timed accordingly -- so that
we do not need to bring the "subconscious" into this. 

Anyway
- If there is a natural ~8-min cycle, which would have been evident to
early civilizations, I haven't found it yet. The Ancient Egyptians are
credited with
establishing the division of the day and night into 12 parts,
although this arrangement might not have "taken" worldwide (as consensual) i.e. 
as the universal
standard period for an "hour" of time lapse - had not both China and India done 
the
same thing in prehistory approximately - all using 12 divisions.

The
importance of 12 has been attributed to the
number of lunar cycles in a year and/or the 12 constellations in the
zodiac signs. But - in order to base a full day on that - and going
back to first principles - then why is the present hour not equivalent
to 120 minutes, so that you get twelve divisions in the full day -
instead of 24 in a full day ? 

Is
that consideration - of a natural lapse of time - the place where the 8
subconscious repetitions of the 8 minute cycle could fit in? Dunno.
However. it could go even further down the chain of resonance to the
next lowest level.


The Schumann Resonance is more familiar to many of us, since there are energy 
implications. This a set of peaks in the
ELF portion of the Earth’s electromagnetic field spectrum. ELF -
Extremely Low Frequencies (or ELF) refers to a band of radio
frequencies from about one to 300Hz. Schumann Resonance is
often said to be related to precisely 7.8 Hz, but that seems to be
incorrect- as there is apparently no single Schumann peak and sometimes
the 7.8 disappears in favor of another.

However,
given the ~8 Hz is the most common resonance in that range - and the
~.125 Hz of the NASA study is an 8X8 multiple of Schumann, and both are
magnetic in orientation: the tentative conclusion is that they be
possibly related to each other, and to early civilization; and it all
gets most interesting as to "a natural lapse of time" in the evolved
subconscious mind (if you can overlook the slight lack of precision). 


Is it all coincidental?

Jones

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