Harry Veeder wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: OrionWorks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:39 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Man cured of AIDS > >> This has been both a fascinating and lengthy discussion thread. >> >> ... >> >>> A rock, imo, is conscious of the Earth but it is not self-conscious. >>> It is knows to fall to the earth, but it doesn't worry >>> about hurting itself. >>> >>> It solves many problems if we grant consciousness to so called >> "dead"> matter, and instead ask how uncousciousness and self- >> consciousness arose. >>> >>> Harry >> "Self-Consciousness" may be over rated. >> >> > > Do I detect a note of sarcasm? ;-) > > I use consciousness and self-consciousness as synonyms for awareness and > self-awareness.
I don't, and I don't agree with Jed on a number of points, but unfortunately I ran out of energy on debating this one so I am going to let it slide (and anyhow it is kind of off topic). I'm actually happier with an assertion that rocks are conscious than I am with an assertion that behavioral psychology has already provided an answer to the question "what is consciousness?" but whatever... It's been a busy and somewhat stressful week here, as our newly acquired (and obviously conscious!) family member, who had previously been living under our porch (and whose picture I have attempted to attach -- we'll see if it goes through) has been throwing up regularly since she got back from her checkup at the vet a few hours after her arrival. It's apparently a bad reaction to the antibiotic which was supposed to keep her from getting sick. Feedings once every hour, and every third feeding, she barfs ... oy. One of these days I may post the parts of Cattic which I've deciphered -- a half dozen "words" (mostly non-visual) and a few "sentences", a bit more complex than one might have expected, but probably all innate rather than learned...
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