On Dec 12, 2008, at 3:19 PM, [email protected] wrote:
Hi,
The following patent application was posted to that list:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0263758.html
Quote from the patent:-
"The process of the present invention is believed to be based on
three hydrogen
nuclei (1H and/or 2H) in a compound approaching within nuclear
tunneling
distance.
Bringing together hydrogen nuclei to within tunneling distance
(order of 0.5-2
Å) is accomplished by the collapse of a molecule. For example, the
catalyst
antimony with deuterium forms stibine, SbH3, or stibine-3d, SbD3,
which goes to
a highly condensed state by the agency of the interaction of a
hydride/deuteride
anion, H-/D-. As a result of this interaction, the D-or H-replaces
an electron,
e-. As with the muonic molecule, there is a collapse to species
such as SbD3(D),
SbD3(H), or SbH3(H) where the three or four N/Ds are within
tunneling distance
some fraction of the time in the shrunken molecule. With three
deuteriums, 6Li
is the predominant product. "
Astute Vorts may recognize my suggestion from years ago, that Hy-
might act as a
replacement for the muon, allowing other nuclei to fuse. :)
BTW this patent sounds like it may contain a good description of
the CF process.
For sure. This doesn't necessarily involve hydrinos either.
particularly considering the requirement that two different
catalysts be
present, one from e.g. group III and one from group I.
This would neatly explain why FP Palladium experiments using LiOD
with traces of
Boron in the Pd appeared to be effective.
Effectively they describe Ed's NAE.
IMO, the Group I metal acts as the Mills catalyst (either alone as
in the case
of K or combined with D as in NaD).
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk <[email protected]>
I don't have much time to comment, but here goes...
It seems to me this is just plain vanilla LENR. A heavy atom lattice
is required to establish a high tunneling rate, and the lightweight
lattice bound atoms are there to provide close and energetic targets
for LENR. The light atoms are required for significant energy
generation due to the curve of binding energy peaking with Fe and
diminishing above Fe56. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binding_energy
Adding H or D to heavy element nuclei results in an energy deficit.
Energy from adding neutrons or di-neutrons to heavies (i.e. heavy
lattice atoms like Pd) is comparatively small unless fissions can be
triggered. Obtaining the equivalent of adding neutrons via H or D
LENR requires weak reactions with comparatively low cross sections.
It appears they overlooked the importance of thermal gradients to
their process (it causes a high tunneling rate) or thermal cycling
(permitting high loading rate followed by high orbital stressing).
Nice that they don't have to worry about energy lost heating their
product, i.e. COP, because their gadgets are simply inserted into a
generating plant boiler fire to increase enthalpy and thus reduce
fuel costs. The main cost is in rebuilding the gadgets when they stop
producing heat.
I don't see anything in this patent inconsistent with the Deflation
Fusion model:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/DeflationFusion.pdf
which has been discussed here extensively.
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/