Jones wrote on 1-2-09: Many of us may not like whatever new definition of 'graviton' or 'photon' emerges from this ...
Anyway, the original Beck/Mackey cite is here: http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0703364 Here is Wiki's entry on Ginzburg Landau which has a similarity to Higgs - and as you mention, Higgs might be the ultimate referee or indicator of truth - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginzburg%E2%80%93Landau_theory Horace Heffner wrote on 1-2-08: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ I don't think the photon and graviton are analogous ... Hi All, The self-imposed constraints on this discussion are amusing, to say the least: A priori, why should there be any similarity between gravitons and photons? Even the speed limit of the photon, as proposed by Einstein, is controversial. Lorentz was able to explain, with exact matehematics, the results of Michelson-Morely in the context of a luminiferous ether by inventing length contraction, which seems a very tame invention when compared with the more recent "virtualities" and "darks." Horace has convincingly destroyed the position of those who maintain that the centrifugal force is a virtual force. Those who have ridden in the rotor at Cedar Point, Ohio, know from personal experience that the centrifugal force is very real. Why assume that the speed of the graviton is the same as the speed of the photon? It is far simpler to say that the Earth feels the force of the Sun about 8 minutes before light emitted at the same time reaches the Earth because gravitons move much faster than photons. There is no need to invoke epicycular "retarded potentials." I've read that NASA still uses Newton's equations and action at a distance to calculate the trajectiories of the rockets to Mars. Jack Smith Stephen A. Lawrence wrote on 1-2-09: State lotteries also are funded in part by compulsive gamblers, and in fact generally "tax" the least well to do the most heavily. This is highly unfair; the lotteries are among the most regressive of taxes. Unfortunately, they are politically far more popular than the more "fair" graduated income tax, and in fact the people lotteries hurt worst are exactly the ones who want states to continue to offer them. Jack writes: Quoting Pascal, "Lotteries are a tax on fools."

