Mark Iverson wrote:

<<So what? Here's a place that has 31,072 petition signatures, all with degrees, nearly half with
PhDs/MDs.
Science is NOT done by concensus!

http://www.petitionproject.org/gwdatabase/Signers_BY_State.html

http://www.petitionproject.org/gwdatabase/GWPP/Review_Article.html>>

This is the infamous Oregon petition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Petition which was relaunched. The signatories are almost exclusively people from other disciplines than climate science. The Oregon petition is a textbook example of the "appeal to authority" fallacy. The recent (smaller) survey that launched this thread is not such an example because it was done "within the field".

Here is a criticism of the original Oregon petition:

<<The Oregon Petition has been used by climate change deniers as proof that there is no scientific consensus, however they fail to note the controversy surrounding the petition itself. In April 1998, Robinson's Oregon Institute, along with the Exxon-backed George C. Marshall Institute , co-published the infamous "Oregon Petition" claiming to have collected 17,000 signatories to a document arguing against the realities of global warming.

The petition and the documents included were all made to look like official papers from the prestigious National Academy of Science . They weren't, and this attempt to mislead has been well-documented.

Along with the petition there was a cover letter from Dr. Fred Seitz a notorious climate change denier (and big tobacco scientist), who over 30 years ago was the president of the National Academy of Science. Also attached to the petition was an apparent "research paper" titled: Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide. The paper was made to mimic what a research paper would look like in the National Academy's prestigious Proceedings of the National Academy journal. The authors of the paper were Robinson, Sallie Baliunas, Willie Soon (both oil-backed scientists) and Robinson's son Zachary. With the signature of a former NAS president and a research paper that appeared to be published in one of the most prestigious science journals in the world, many scientists were duped into signing a petition based on a false impression.

The petition was so misleading that the National Academy issued a news release stating that: "The petition project was a deliberate attempt to mislead scientists and to rally them in an attempt to undermine support for the Kyoto Protocol. The petition was not based on a review of the science of global climate change, nor were its signers experts in the field of climate science.">>

The newly relaunched petition (in 2007) with a claimed 32,000 signatures appears to use the same misleading "paper" written by the Robinsons and Soon which has been comprehensively demolished as misleading and deceptive not to mention highly based on old discredited or superseded papers.



Nick Palmer

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