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As the smoke cleared, thomas malloy <[email protected]> mounted the barricade and roared out: > grok took another big drink of the cool aide and wrote: > >>> our senses, Sajay Samuel says, we have no basis on which to question >>> science. He argues for a revival of common sense. >> >> What we all require is a revival of _dialectical_ sense. >> > Dialectical thinking says that truth is relative. It says that words > mean what the speaker wants them to mean. In one sense, this is true enuff. In the sense you are trying to mean it - -- it is not very true at all. What is 'true', in fact, evolves (emerges) over time. You know: that 'evolution' thing. 'Dialog' is all about both teasing out the mutli-faceted nature of any 'truth', and also attempting to consciously evolve with it over time. > Consequently the Constitution can be a living document, All constitutions MUST be 'living documents -- in fact, simply a symbolic representation of the will of the People -- for them to be anything approaching truly democratic. And so, constitutions SHOULD evolve over time, as well. The fact that many/most/all constitutions are nothing more than reified pieces of paper -- invariably 'gamed' by those who control access to them, and maintain a jealous monopoly in their interpretation - -- is the actual basis of our present very UN-democratic bourgeois- democratic political setup. > meaning that it is OK to abridge someone's freedom of speech or > religion because someone else finds their speech or ideas hateful. > Dialectical thinking is the predominate world view in the western > world, which is a major reason for it's continued deterioration. No -- in fact, the predominant worldview in the West is bourgeois analytical, reductionist logic. Dialectix is in fact marxist -- and in some sense, pre-bourgeois, natural -- thinking. There was more to this to reply to -- but I'll cut it off here because we barely speak the same language, let alone abide by the same logic or ethix. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *************************************** * BOYCOTTS: Organized; Ad Hoc; Anticipated; Hoped-For: * **** Critical endorsement only *** Most sites need donations **** * http://www.unitedboycott.org Join the War On Corporatism * * http://www.unitedboycott.org/mediaboycott.htm & Media Holdings * * http://www.boycottbush.org Boycott Bush (boycott the U.S.A.) * * http://www.saanet.org/alcant Alcan't In India Campaign * *** Military Technology: The Ultimate Prostitution of Science *** GPG fingerprint = 2E7F 2D69 4B0B C8D5 07E3 09C3 5E8D C4B4 461B B771 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknC29UACgkQXo3EtEYbt3HnjQCgrOCO+liQWhhOQ+BuwFSvfIs4 H+AAnRiuda1bFNYNQCPc+uoedit/yK+4 =xauX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
