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As the smoke cleared, Mauro Lacy <[email protected]> mounted the barricade and roared out: > If a significant part of that "working class" could, they will act and > behave similarly to their burgueois "enemies". And you completely fail > to see this. You completely fail to see (as Marxism does) , that the > problem is not the social class to which you supposedly belong, but your > human nature, that trascends it. That is absolutely false. The biological "nature" of animals aside (the facts of which themselves being quite open to fierce ongoing debate) humans in fact have a *social* nature -- which changes according to developments in social relations at large. What you're doing here is the equivalent of looking down the wrong end of a telescope, pardner. > > > You are the other, grok. So, you are on the inside, in part at least, the > > > enemy > > > that you're trying to combat so fiercely on the outside. > > > > > > Regards, Mauro > > > > And this is mystical pseudo-dialectical mumbo jumbo AFAIC, Mauro. > > It is logical and expected that you, as a Marxist, will say that. Ya, I know. We're so EVIL, after all. > But that "mumbo jumbo" is not the one that is fostering conflict and violent > confrontation. Say what..? Look to your military and police, fella. How many people have they murdered in just the past week or so? You regutgitate the propaganda -- and I'm supposed to just let it past me, huh? NOTHING is more ugly and violent than a capitalist which hasn't been fed bloodmeal and raw, dripping hamburger in the past few minutes. > And Marxism has failed not because of its supposed analytical failures, but in > spite of its analytical successes. Most often than not, the ones that critic > and > despise the current social and economic order, are not up to the task of > building a > better one. And that is made specially clear when they are given some power. > I'm > not in favour of the actual social order, at all. But certainly wouldn't be in > favour of a communist one. Not one as history as showed. More mindless crap from someone who obviously doesn't have a clue. How to respond... > If you foster conflict, you'll harvest tempest. You will. And it will be > your responsability, that part of the violence, hate and destruction > that your acts will be fostering (but this is just mystical mumbo jumbo, > of course.) > > So, in the end, you're no better than the ones you're trying to condemn. > Only less powerful. I think we'll let the working-class decide just who are the violent ones. How're your investments coming along, BTW..? I'll bet that slave-labor minepit pays out GOOD dividends... - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoTUggACgkQXo3EtEYbt3FshACghVxxoJUW2eMPgGN1oEOxsu+2 S9gAoJse9JhEWVJD+8nwLoki2KUZE592 =KkGd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
