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As the smoke cleared, Edmund Storms <[email protected]> mounted the barricade and roared out: >> And please ban Croc or Groc or whoever he is: He is largely >> responsible for leading the boys astray. > > I agree, Grok contributes very little. I regret stirring up his rants > when I started this thread. On the other hand, I think some issues are > so important that an occasional discussion of them is important, > especially when they have an influence on the kind of science that is > allowed to be studied and on our personal fate. For example, the > economic collapse is providing a temporary bust to research, thanks to > the Obama stimulus. If this support can be sustained, we might find > ways to make cheaper energy with less environmental impact. > Unfortunately, duration of this support is not clear and many people who > are doing unique research will not have access to this money. In > addition, the economic and social changes are taking place so rapidly, > it is worth being as fully aware of these changes as possible in order to > make wise personal decisions. Most people who contribute to the > discussions on this list add to this understanding, which is very > valuable. I add to the discussion, however modestly. So it's a damned lie to say that I don't. However, the terminally delusional politix of the U.S. is not only naturally on display here with seemingly every second post (whether I'm part of that or not) -- but it is also simply *assumed*, in the usual hegemonic way of Empire. And then you people turn right around and rail against the assumptions of bourgeois science that you're all quacks and grifters... Like I said earlier: the irony of it all. Socialism AIN'T dead -- no matter how many billions 'your' masters spend, or millions they murder, forcing that false conclusion on us -- and it certainly AIN'T what certain vested interests here try to make it out to be: people who are ALWAYS quick to demand censorship, let me point out... Beware that. If youse all want to be the next lot of Nazi scientists -- be my guests. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoUV8QACgkQXo3EtEYbt3ELtgCeNbpB+KIFKsyYwikcQ7If2v0z kyUAmwfUuyi0lj8T6voUtIe/juKjqhFV =CYQV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
