At this point, why isn't Jed back? I wasn't gone this long... Anyone contacted him, told him the level of support/commiserations and ensured he isn't taking it all personally?
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>wrote: > Well stated Steven! Jed makes people think by making informed arguments, > some of which I also do not share. Apparently his style is painful to some > people, I'm sorry to discover. > > Ed > > On Jun 14, 2009, at 11:40 AM, OrionWorks wrote: > > Hi Kyle, >> >> Regarding my previous response: >> >> Kyle sez: >>> >> >> From: Mark Iverson >>>>> Hey Jed, time to go take a vacation >>>>> and get some R&R... Go climb a mountain with your >>>>> kids. By the time you get back, Bill will have >>>>> ended the ban...you won't even know it was in effect! >>>>> >>>> >>> Better yet, he can contemplate the error of telling >>>> people how they should live their lives, and come down >>>> off his high horse. Hopefully none of this will happen >>>> again, since Bill has thankfully banned religious/ >>>> political topics. >>>> >>> >>> Really? That's your impression of Jed? >>> >>> I would suggest you might want to consider looking in the >>> mirror when you say that. >>> >> >> >> I wish to express a public apology to Kyle MCallister. My previous >> comment was impulsive, and it shows so. Let me rephrase my prior >> thoughts into something less impulsive, and hopefully more thoughtful. >> >> Kyle, I disagree with your assessment of Mr. Rothwell's agenda of >> "...telling people how they should live their lives". While I can >> sympathize with those whom might feel that that might be Jed's agenda, >> I don't think that applies in this specific situation, the situation >> that earned Jed his temporary time-out. >> >> It's my understanding that Jed, as the result of making several >> prudent career choices in his life, is now in the rare position of >> having achieved a level of financial independents most of us can only >> dream of. Jed now has the luxury of being able to spend a great deal >> of his personal resources on causes he believes in passionately like >> supporting alternative energy, especially Cold Fusion. IOW, Jed has >> the luxury of being able to assume the role of a reactionary. It is >> often the job of reactionaries to ruffle a few feathers every now and >> then. >> >> Unfortunately, it is easy to perceive "reactionaries" as having become >> a tad too removed from the realities and practicalities of life. It >> can occasionally become problematical to take what "reactionaries" >> have to say seriously. It's easy to perceive reactionaries as having >> climbed on top of a high horse as well. Reactionaries can also be >> perceived as eccentric, arrogant, possessing a holier-than-thou >> attitude, and perhaps even a little naïve since many will assume such >> individuals no longer have to suffer the slings and arrows of being >> forced to work forty to sixty hours a week to pay the rent and put >> food on the table. >> >> I think what ticked me off, and what caused me to post such an >> impulsive response to your statement was that in my view Jed was >> unfairly banned for quoting a statement that was actually made by a >> Washington Post reviewer. The WP reviewer expressed a personal >> opinion/view of what could happen to the Middle East if Cold Fusion >> were to become a practical economical reality. Jed went on to state >> his OWN counter-views on the subject (which he cc'd to vortex-l) as >> follows: >> >> I must say, I disagree with the sentiments expressed. I can >>> think of lots of more compelling arguments for alternative energy, >>> such as the fact that it would save tens of thousands of lives >>> every week and prevent global warming. Marginalizing some anti- >>> western groups in Arab countries would also be a benefit, but >>> small in comparison. >>> >>> In any case, I hope the Middle Eastern oil-producing nations >>> are not marginalized, or turned into a cultural backwater. That >>> does seem likely, but I hope instead that they benefit as much >>> from cold fusion as much as anyone else, and also from a >>> renaissance in science. Naturally, I hope the end of petro-dollars >>> will reducing funding for terrorism! But I do not blame Middle >>> Eastern nations because they happen to be sitting on a lot of oil >>> and we have made them extremely wealthy. I think that was a >>> misguided thing to do but it was our fault, not theirs. >>> >> >> Apparently, Jed got banned because, technically speaking, he broke Mr. >> Beaty's temporary ban of posting political (and religious) statements. >> I don't dispute that fact. I also realize that technically speaking I >> am deliberately disobeying Mr. Beaty's temporary ban by deliberately >> posting additional political commentary on Vortex-l as well. Mr. Beaty >> is perfectly in his right to ban me. I have done so because I felt it >> was more important, in this particular case, to help clear up what I >> thought might exist certain misconceptions. I also don't think it was >> fair to Jed, and have more than once offered myself as a "prisoner >> exchange" if it would help get Jed reinstated back into Vortex-l more >> quickly. Call it an act of civil disobedience. ;-) >> >> Therefore, before I am personally banned as well, I ask you: Kyle: >> Where in these statements that apparently earned Jed a temporary >> time-out did you come to the conclusion that Mr. Rothwell is telling >> other people how to live their lives? Where in these statements that >> Jed made did you come to the conclusion that Mr. Rothwell needs to >> come off his high horse? >> >> Regards >> Steven Vincent Johnson >> www.OrionWorks.com >> www.zazzle.com/orionworks >> >> >
