At 10:35 PM 7/10/2009, you wrote:
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From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

> So why does Takahashi not mention the words "Bose-Einstein
condensate," which is what the TSC seems to be?

... not cold enough ?

> And why does Kim not mention Takahashi, his prior experimental work, and
his theory?

... professional jealousy ?

> Have I got this wrong? Is the TSC not a Bose-Einstein condensate?

If a transitory high temperature version of the BEC is possible, then yes,
this could be possible, and would serves to answer a lot of questions.
However there are other hypothetical ways for four nuclei to condense.

AFAIK there is zero real proof that a BEC is possible at anywhere near
300-400 K, although that hypothesis has been mentioned as far back as 1992,
if not earlier. Proof always seems to get in the way.

I think the temperature is misleading. What matters is the *relative* energies of the two molecules; if they happen to have low relative energy -- the opposite of what we thought would be needed! --, they are as if at very low temperature.

In other words, what we think of as a BEC, as a bulk phenomenon, requires very low temperatures. However, if all we are considering is two molecules, can those two condense in the same manner as a BEC? I don't see why not, but, then again, I really don't know enough to do more than ask a few questions.

However, there is another possibility that goes back to the geometry you
mentioned - the tetrahedron, which is one of nature's most favored
structures. That hypothesis is even further out, but possibly no more of a
stretch than a hot BEC.

Yes, the tetrahedron is important, particularly with respect to confinement by a cubic lattice.

Although the tetrahedron has no orthocenter in the sense of intersecting
altitudes, there is a 'virtual' center known as the Monge point which could
conceivably hold or even 'entice' a strong negative charge - via the four
nuclei at the vertex getting into some kind of resonance in a tight matrix
situation. The central virtual charge would need to be Spin 1 and not a
lepton, or else a bound pair of leptons. Long before P&F, when Aspden had a
little more credibility than he does these days (due to 40 years of few
confirming experiments) he was talking about bound dual virtual muons. This
citation will be hard to find: H. Aspden: "Physics without Einstein"
(Sabberton, Southampton, 1969)

He was able to tie it all mathematically into the fine structure constant;
and that virtual muon pair might work as an agent of condensation or Coulomb
shield or whatever - for four tetrahedral deuterons in an alternative TSC.

Far enough out there for you?

Takahashi includes the electrons in his analysis. It's important: what we have isn't simply four deuterons, it's two deuterium molecules, arranged crosswise for maximum packing efficiency into a cube. That puts the deuterons into a tetrahedron, one each at the center of four opposing faces of the cube, or, because of the electronic binding of the molecule, inward toward the center of the cube.

Whatever the configuration is, it would obviously be quite rare, if Takahashi's calculations are accurate. He doesn't seem to try to calculate the efficiency of formation of the TSC, as far as I've seen, just what happens if if the tetrahedral configuration forms. My guess is that this would require very low relative velocities of the deuterium molecules and the lattice, which just may explain the rarity. It's just due to the distribution of velocities. While this might seem to predict higher fusion at lower temperatures, perhaps there are other factors, such as flow rate through the lattice, dissociation rates and exact dissociation mechanism, etc, that work in the other direction.

Hey, let's face it - there is nothing that works to everyone's satisfaction.
The best thing about Aspden is that he is (was) able to find all sorts of
strange coincidental values that align ... for (probably) unrelated reasons
... or not.

Thanks for the consideration. I've seen some very superficial (but tentative) dismissals of TSC theory that aren't explained well enough. For example, you mention temperature, but, as I think I've pointed out, that does actually lead to a rejection of the theory, it would merely indicate that it would be rare. Which we know it is.

The other rejection reason I've seen is that the theory predicts most energy goes into alpha particles at 23.8 MeV and supposedly this would cause secondary reactions. But my understanding is that those secondary reactions are, in fact, observed, so where is the beef? Is there some quantitative analysis that indicates otherwise? Detecting the full alpha radiation is quite difficult, most of it is absorbed pretty quickly, in a very short distance. Is there less Bremsstrahlung radiation than would be predicted? Perhaps the depth in the lattice is important; I've been assuming it's a purely surface phenomenon, but it might be that some of the molecules survive into a bit deeper in the lattice, how much is known about the exact dissociation process? *Where* do the molecules break up? If it were buried in the lattice a bit, that would cause more loss of alpha energy to the lattice.



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