From: Mr. Storms >>> According to David Jacob's work, the abductees run in families. >>> I suppose some random catch and release might happen, but this >>> does not seem to be the prevailing method. People who are abducted >>> are also caught repeatedly and re-examined. The aliens seem to be >>> interested in following particular genetic lines from one generation >>> to the next. This is exactly how our scientists carry out genetic >>> research in our laboratories, so this approach is not surprising. >> I suspect both Jacob and I Hopkins would concur with this hypothesis. >> Its a plausible explanation within the context of our current >> scientific paradigms. >> Playing the devils advocate, the fact that there does seem to be an >> obvious cross-generation genetic component suggests the possibility >> that the genes themselves are primarily responsible for allowing >> such experiences to manifest within certain individuals. IMO, such >> a hypothesis is just as reasonable an explanation as compared to >> conjecturing that the experiences are generated by encounters with >> extraterrestrial aliens whom it is alleged are interested in >> particular DNA lineages.
> Come now, Steven, I don't know about your kids, but mine are not > similar enough to have the same nonreal experiences. While similar > vivid hallucinations run in families, the occasions are very rare. > Besides, you ignore all the physical evidence that is consistent > with the claimed events. I would appreciate a clarification on what you are referring to when it is stated there is consistent physical evidence. I just want to be on the same page with you should we continue to ponder this complex issue, particularly since definitions of "physical evidence" can possibly differ in both subtle and profound ways between individuals. Can you give some examples? >> Ill say it once again for the record, my conjecture does not mean >> that such experiences should be considered any less valid, certainly >> not to the experiencer. > Either the allies and their claimed behavior and supposed intentions > are real, or the claims are only in the imagination, as you argue. > To me, the former is important and the latter possibility is trivial. > Granted, some people suffer from hallucinations, which are only > important to the people who have the experience and to people who > study brain function. On the other hand, the reality of alien > visitation is important to everyone. I am surprised to see you seemingly position your conjecture on this matter within such a narrow spectrum, a black & white scenario of an "either" / "or" position. I am also under the impression that you perceive my evolving UFO Abduction Paradigm as being "trivial" because it seems to suggest that UFO abductees are simply suffering from something akin to vivid imaginations. If that is the case, and please correct me if I've misinterpreted your perceptions on this matter, I would have to say that you have either misunderstood or you are deliberately ignoring the underlying ramifications behind the hypothesis. Personally, I would hardly consider the experiencer paradigm "trivial" by any stretch of the imagination. FWIW, I have also never, never, EVER, argued that there may not be extraterrestrials out there who might be interested in our DNA for various scientific reasons. My conjecture, my suspicion, however, is that it's likely to be more rare than what I gather you seem to conjecturing. >> I suspect our current understanding of what is considered valid reality >> is likely to undergo radical changes within the next century or two. > I expect this is true. Of course, the UFO issue is not the only one > that is being debated these days and will result in significant changes > in popular belief. Popular belief is usually many years behind what > is known by people who make an effort to understand reality. Why not > get a head start on this process? Indeed. Speaking of "head starts"... As you already know, since you brought it to the attention of the Vort Collective not all that long ago, let us ponder the reality of Sai Baba. How many of us are truly ready (or wise enough) to manipulate reality in the manner that Sai Baba hints at? Perhaps for now it is best if most of us continue believing that all this talk about "mind over matter" is nothing more than foolish "trivial" fantasy. CISCOP fodder. ;-) Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
