what do you think of the large hard-on collider?

Harry
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From: Harbach Jak <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009 1:01 pm
Subject: [Vo]:IreMyth"TimeDialation"

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> ?Did not Einstein indicate the reality of the manipulation of time 
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> ? ? ?So why is this so hard to believe is quite possible, even 
> probable; by say even a 'future version of ourselves' not to 
> mention maybe those who 'terra-formed us' &  who preceed us 
> evolutionarily by maybe several millions(maybe evern billions) of 
> years?  Some psuedo-thinkers are so 'narrow' that they could see 
> through a key-whole with both eyes at the same time. . . .~:-O
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> * * *Hola Amigos;
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> Sweet falacy & the Humanities:
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> This morning's caffeine & sugar rush is Great!  
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> ? ? ?And why do most yuppies need their children to act like small-
> zombies rather than the EXUBERANT INFORMATION SPONGES that is their 
> really cool genetic heritage as the top-o-the-food-chain species on 
> the planet~(at present)~anyway?
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> The Humanities are a lovely subject to contemplate as is Hard 
> Archeology & Anthropology.
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> When we do find 'temporally displaced' objects impossibly 
> placed/out of place in 'time' we tend to just BLOW IT OFF.  
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> Enter the likes of master debunker J.Allen Hynek who no rational 
> scientific mind would be likely to spurn in regards to scientific 
> process nor integrity.
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> Hynek's ultimate stance is history and 'hard-evidence' is so 
> tedious, bland, and easily shoved off onto some back shelf, so 
> screw it if it cramps our dulcet humanites theories.  We wouldn't 
> want to upset the applecart regarding some tenured Prof.'s tried & 
> true,(and boring/by-wrote) lectures.  So much for intellectual 
> curiosity which 'should' be the hallmark of EVERY FIELD OF 
> SCIENTIFIC ENDEAVOR and not just OU.
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> How should history regard 'flying shields' that breach the 
> impregnable walls of the ancient island city of Tyre with 'beams of 
> light; when otherwise the Macedonian's siege would have likely 
> failed?  Well, thats just 'myth;' right; but it is duely recorded 
> 'myth' all the same.  And pretty much 'every other aspect' of the 
> Alexandrian chronicles are considered 'hard-historic-data.'  Those 
> pesky 'flying disks' are always popping up like piss-ants at your 
> picnic anyway.
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> And oddly some centuries before that a deluded religious oddball by 
> the name of Jonah was swallowed/dead & survived/back-from-the-
> likely-dead having been in the belly of a USO-oh crap-I mean a 
> sperm whale in the Mediterranean Sea with bad stomach gas.   And 
> when he got mugged by the Japanese turtle, well that was just the 
> frosting on the cake------------oh yea!
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> Aside:  I've found that Japanese tourists with those nice-state-of-
> the-art cameras are just as onerous as the turtles anyday.
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> But after the fish old Jonah just happened to predict the future 
> 'Total destruction of Tyre;' the fish told him, right? And this all 
> seemed just a bit of a stretch at the time.  And tenacious as the 
> future Alexander indeed was, his low tech approach would have 
> required a bit more luck than chance was likely to avail any plucky 
> conqueror.  Without massive now-modern artillary and hi-tech air 
> superiority, a modern tank-division or two would have been hard 
> pressed to breach those ancient massive multi-staged walls of Tyre. 
> The Nazi siege of Stalingrad in the Russian winter had far better 
> odds of success than Alexander's Tyre adventure.
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> ?And what in the bloody hell did Ancient Ysraeli Pre-Helenic myth 
> have to do with Macedonian-Greek Platonically educated WarLords and 
> their belief system---->?  ?We're to swallow that Alexander was 
> conscioulsy keyed into a belief in 'ancient Jewish USO-Fish 
> predicting FlyingShield air superiority back-up; and this centuries 
> down the line for a King & Kingdom that didn't even exist at the 
> time of said prediction?  
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> Oh yea,  right, but Alexander went to India and heard of the good 
> old ancient 'Vimana' wars etc.; but oops oh crap, Al's India thing 
> was 'after' Tyre.  Oh hell;  we've always got Swamp-Gasss; or maybe 
> just over-educated into oblivious-credentialitis-pedantis 
> chondriasis, gas.
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> A la' Carl Jung; whatever injects 'data' into the collective 
> consciousness at any juncture in history is, as usual, likely to 
> end up as flying turtles or what-have-you. But does this 
> necessarily 'debunk' the 'exotic/but maybe exotically real' 
> causitive agent for starting the 'myth' in the first place?  Can 
> legends ever be said to have been rooted in (not necessarily 
> prozaic) fact?  And is it truely professionally & intellectually 
> sound to out-of-hand to subject the 'exotic' to the poo-pooing of 
> our erst-while social scientists?   
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> And as for much of what is passed off as Social 'science;' it is 
> NOT HARD SCIENCE but rather spongey & soft science at best.  And 
> who of those paying scrupulous attention to the pithy ramblings of 
> our credentialesque-debunkers, have not noticed this?-:  I'VE NEVER 
> MET TWO SOCIAL SCIENTIST-PRACTITIONERS who AGREE on ANY PRACTICAL 
> POINT unless they've been contracted for lucre to DEBUNK SOMETHING 
> unpopular-or embarrassing etc..  So what indeed are they 'expert' 
> at other than their own 'extremely humanly-quirky' MODUS of 
> INTERPRETATION?  And this includes ulterior motives of $, Tenure, 
> intellectual-hubris, intellectual cowardice, and sundry other 
> ulteriors of themselves &/or their various employers-often 
> goverment employed &/or funded.
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> HARD EVIDENCE: Pilot's testimonies(often military),  exotic 
> accompanying physical anomolies, hard-radar-targets,  etc. 'ad 
> infinitum' do yet fall within the range of empirical credibility.   
> And NO CONVENTIONAL THEORY has even the SLIGHTEST HOPE of 
> explaining the PROVEN(not myth) phenomenon of "Spooky Action @ 
> (impossibly vast)Distance" for instance and this IS hard evidence 
> as well.
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> So much for the silliness of 'conventional/established' LAWFUL theory.
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> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 21:41:13 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:More Abductions
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
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> Let me just add one more example that it is not contentious or 
> politically loaded. Many Americans nowadays believe that sugar is a 
> stimulant. For example, they believe that if their children eat 
> sugared cereal for breakfast they will get a "sugar high" and race 
> around the house causing commotion. I know some well-educated 
> parents who are convinced they observed this firsthand.
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> ("Ignoring a common cause" logical fallacy.)
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> I believe this notion arose recently. In a few generations it will 
> be forgotten.
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> - Jed
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