Lets also not forget that the EXACT sequence of events, flying up
towards some star, meeting with strange creatures who answer questions
about life, given knowledge, and tossed back to earth, happened in
multiple cultures to people who never heard of ufo's

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Harbach Jak<[email protected]> wrote:
> Jed's right about what he is saying.  Carl Jung-wise the abduction bit has
> entered our collective-consciousness globally to saturation.  In short
> "International Abductee Religion" is upon us; more's the pity.
>
> As 'most' religions usually have a grain of 'original truth;' though later
> distorted down through time to unrecognizability AS said 'truth;'  there is
> abduction actuality 'also' within this convoluted mess.
>
> Betty & Barney hill were modern originals.  Their story was
> contemporaneously unique.
> Their vehicle showed hard artifactual evidence of having been 'molested' by
> some heavy-lifting technology that was 'not logically' likely to be out on a
> lonely highway in the wee hours of the night back in the 50's.
>
> Aside from the now legendarily-common/typical abduction story/fantasy; the
> Hill's is one particularly interesting nugget by way of the fairly
> matter-of-fact testimony from Betty Hill.
>
> Betty, rather soberly and straight-forwardly, asked her abductors to 'show'
> her where they came from.  They funny-gray-guys showed her a star-chart
> which later she was able to credibly reproduce.
>
> CASE IN POINT:  That star system was NOT DISCOVERED by earth-bound
> astronomers for well OVER a DECADE AFTER Betty Hill diagramed it from
> memories
> of her adventure with her husband Barney Hill;  (no not the Rubbles!~:-)
>
> So although Jed Rothwell is absolutely correct with his psycho-social
> collective consciousness analysis of the matter in the main; let us not
> throw out the baby totally with the bath-water.
>
> As J. Allen Hynek extremely thoroughly researched, tested , & documented;
> there is a small but definite percentage of this business that is the REAL
> THING(Spooky Action @ a Distance anybody?)
>
> And there is much more within----Dark\        \<O>/        /Spaces-----than
> we might 'conveniently' &/or comfortably suppose. . . .~JH~:-) Cheers Y'all!
>
>
>> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 11:46:23 -0400
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:More Abductions
>>
>>
>>
>> Jed Rothwell wrote:
>> > . . .
>> >
>> > That is the point I have been trying to make, which people here do not
>> > seem to grasp. Folktales were known to everyone in society before
>> > there was widespread literacy and later television. People everywhere
>> > periodically have waking dreams, or dreams they confuse with reality,
>> > and many people suffer from delusions. The content of these dreams and
>> > delusions come entirely from their own minds, so they are
>> > stereotypical and based on stories people hear from others (or see on
>> > television these days). The stories are not original, because most
>> > people are not imaginative. The stories all sound the same. There are
>> > dozens of variations on the badger stories in Japan, all similar.
>> > There are dozens of similar UFO abduction stories today because the
>> > people who imagine it happened to them all heard the stories from
>> > someone else.
>> > . . .
>> >
>> > Nowadays there is no penalty for not believing in UFOs or Lazarus
>> > rising from the dead. But people are nearly as ignorant as they were
>> > in 1600 or 1800. Education has hardly budged the general level of
>> > knowledge. A large fraction of the population does not know that the
>> > earth circles the sun once a year or what causes seasons. Most
>> > Americans do not believe in evolution of course, but they also have no
>> > idea what a calorie is, or amperage and voltage. Japanese people are
>> > only marginally more educated in my experience, based on attending
>> > college there and reading their mass media. Most people are incurious
>> > and seldom bother to learn things that are of no immediate use to them.
>> >
>> > So it is not a bit surprising that belief in alien abductions is
>> > widespread, and it follows from this that many people believe that
>> > they themselves were abducted.
>>
>> That which surprised me about the story wasn't that she apparently
>> believed herself abducted by aliens.
>>
>> It was that she "experienced" being taken to Venus and apparently found
>> it completely acceptable that it was "very green". Coming from the wife
>> of the prime minister of a nation which has spacefaring capabilities,
>> that seems bizarre.
>>
>> It has been known for decades, as absolute confirmed fact, that Venus
>> isn't even close to "green"; they even teach it in at least some
>> elementary schools in the United States.
>>
>
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