I may want to retract my ref to Heffners' and Haischs' theory below - I believe their version may only require the cavity translation and is independent of bonding. Fran
-----Original Message----- From: Roarty, Francis X [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Vo]:Spontaneous Human Combustion (SHC) [Snip] point 3 3) A pre-exisiting genetic factor that is little known - and would be involved with the LENR or hot hydrogen process itself, "after" combustion initiation by mundane effects, and which could be a factor similar to what is seen in this video, of a family that has unusual magnetic bio-fields: [end snip] Jones, I agree with your points 1 and 2 but disagree with your timing mentioned in point 3 ' "after" combustion initiation by mundane effects" ' You know I endorse relativistic hydrogen vs the hydrino to avoid sub ground state and explain the non radiative nature of the hydrino but regardless of which view you take there is no need for combustion to create heat. Bonds are restored to monatomic energy levels by the nature of the Casimir cavity in all of these theories (Mills, Haisch, Heffner and my own). I would interpret the SHC as the mundane combustion following the loading and acceleration of monatomic ambient gases in the porous cavities of human bone. I think the SHC is similar to the Japanese results with hydrogen gas diffused and allowed to soak in Pd nano materials. Best Regards Fran -----Original Message----- From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Vo]:Spontaneous Human Combustion (SHC) ----Original Message----- From: Horace Heffner I think spontaneous human combustion (SHC) is worthy of consideration in relation to cold fusion because (a) there is solid evidence it exists and (b) it may provide clues as to how to achieve a robust free or nuclear energy process in a chemical environment. This has been discussed in this forum in past years. A summary of my comments here is provided at: http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/SHC.pdf Yes, we have tossed around some wild ideas in the past. This piece is a good and relatively non-controversial statement of a controversial situation - since it might portend or suggest the LENR factor. If the range of possible explanations and contributing factors were to be made more complete - then it could also mention several other details: 1) Bifurcation from the mundane "initiator" - The interconnection (in many of the cases) with cigarettes, alcohol, obesity and season (usually winter). These would only explain the initiation of the phenomenon, and the "starved-flame" scenario which "should" then be self-quenching, or else consume the entire residence. Since that does not happen, we must move on to step two, which could then relate to LENR, or to .... 2) The hydrino, "hot hydrogen" (Langmuir) or alternative fractional-hydrogen explanation. Either or which can very likely depend on: 3) A pre-exisiting genetic factor that is little known - and would be involved with the LENR or hot hydrogen process itself, "after" combustion initiation by mundane effects, and which could be a factor similar to what is seen in this video, of a family that has unusual magnetic bio-fields: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mADlT9FALOs Note: the last is NOT offered as a partial explanation for SHC itself - but only shows that there could be a hidden genetic factor in the accumulation of certain kinds of metal, in this case with strong external fields - and that this genetic factor itself is responsible for the SHC effect following initiation, but has yet to be isolated. This would be true even if the video turns out to be some kind of hoax. For instance, if there were found real evidence (transmutation isotopes), in the analysis of the ash of SHC - or tritium for instance - to suggest a valid LENR connection, then a genetic trait which might contribute to that would be a propensity for the tissues (or bone surfaces, most likely) of the victim to accumulate an "active metal" or catalytic alloy - not palladium, since it is rare, but possible an alloy of nickel perhaps with lithium or boron. Plus we suspect that tobacco is an accumulator of radionuclides. Tobacco abuse is often seen in SHC victims. http://www.webspawner.com/users/radioactivethreat/ It is all fascinating, and if you look closely at only the "mundane" explanation, it only gets you as far as the combustion initiator, and possibly the source of some of the radioactivity - but not to the complete anomaly and unusual reaction, so to speak, which notably does not spread beyond the victim. Then - moving a little further afield, there is the idea of a "troubled soul", but let's not go there. We are already over the top of most "BS alarms" (including my own). Jones
