Did a google search on electrets;
(Found in draft category, long winded records)
http://rimstar.org/materials/electrets/index.htm
This guy used acrylic and is more scientific.
http://keelynet.com/electret.htm
A basic background of the subject.

And now for the rest of the story;
Concentric Tube Wax/ Ti Concentrate Capacitors
Monday, October 5, 2009 11:10 PM
From:
"Harvey Norris" <[email protected]>
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In current off topic business I have ordered widths of expensive stainless 
steel tubing and made constructions for holding the cylinders equidistant from 
1/2 inch ID outwards to 2.5 inch OD. A 3 inch shell is to be added also where ~ 
5 cells in series @ 3/8 spacing will be made on our assemblies. These are being 
cut into nine inch lengths. A set of these cylinders were cut too long at 10 
inches and cannot fit into our assemblies and are considered "scrap" for now.

Paraffin wax can be melted down and mixed with a variety of powders to improve 
its dielectric constant, which of chief concern here is titanium oxide, the 
white pigment powder used in white paint. We have ordered supplies and made 
this wax mixture some time ago. The difficulty that ensues is obtaining the 
concentrate, as when the mixture cools and solidifies, only the bottom portion 
contains the maximum concentration of the additive by saturation, which can be 
seen on the coloration of the mixture upon settling.

These unused 10 in.length concentric cylinders can be used to test the 
dielectric constant of the various wax mixtures made, and then melted out for 
discard, or futher use... Barium titanate is said to have a large dielectric 
constant. Even ferrite powder can be formed to a wax concentrate, and even 
mixed with TiO2 concentrate. In 17 years of work in the plastics processing 
industry, I used to run spectrum frequency IR scans for incoming chemicals for 
verification of their  graph signatures. The sample plates for the chemical 
were actually large salt crystals about the size of a small dominoe.

One time a great confusion arose when I tested paraffin wax and then some of 
the granular polyethylenes made by Allied Chemical; 617A and 629A. I'm 
certainly no chemist but these are very low temperature melting polyethylenes, 
but the chemical signatures on the IR graph  are very similar to paraffin, so 
it would essentially seem to be a much harder, higher melting point wax that 
might be used for concentrates. The sample plate would not give a good IR 
signature for the AC poly when previously tested with paraffin. The salt 
crystal sample plate itself had to be quickly swabbed with water to give the 
"totally" accurate IR signature of the higher density waxes.

Concentric plated capacitors may be undesirable for TC Primaries, but if a 
suitably high dielectric mixture can be homemade, this may compete with the 
market. The outer shell could edgewise cut to be distant from the inner shell 
edge for two plate models, to prevent close plate proximities.
More economical metals as the thinnest possible tubing should be possible also.

In any case when the first Ti/Wax concentrate ring layer is made I will show 
the specs.

Sincerely HDN

Post note; Now of course new avenues of exploration open up, which has caused 
me to think of the holy grail of magnetization techniques, which once seen in 
the mind, MUST be carried out at all costs. Thereby to give moral effort for 
this bold endeavor I have ordered volumes 1&2 of Adolf Hitler, by John 
Toland,(good jail readings I remember) and also SS Brotherhood of the Bell by 
Joe Farrell which has some interesting Bearden interpretations.

It may be difficult, or nigh impossible to produce two phases of electrical 
resonance whereby the two phases are driven at 90 degree phase angles with 
regard to each other; AND FURTHERMORE INTERACTED SO THAT THE ELECTRIC FIELD 
FROM EACH RESONANT PHASE IS CONTAINED INSIDE THE OPPOSING PHASES MAGNETIC FIELD 
ORTHOGONALLY. This is the concept bourne out by juxtaposed 90 degree flux 
capacitors, where earlier in the 2009 year the preliminary concepts were tested 
with one side only. Water was used as the dielectric within a large induction 
coil of 70 lb 23 gauge wire @ 456 hz.

Now if the condition of efficient magnetic and electric fields brought forth by 
series resonance are made self contained orthogonally in both space and TIMINGS 
of each, the lorentz force reaction of the free charge movement between the 
axial electric field plates is of course a deflection of that charge movement 
brought upon by the electric field itself, but in this circumstance because 
both the electric and magnetic fields both reverse polarity simultaneously in 
that confined space, the lorentz force reaction does not, it merely pulses in 
one direction. However the material used for the electric field is always an 
insulator, meaning that the only NET electrical movement in the sample is made 
by the rotation of the dipoles themselves macroscpically, and this is an 
exceedingly small distance compared to that of the axial electric field plate 
separation itself.

Thus for this unique balanced EXB lorentz reaction force to  to  easily 
manifest itself as a unidirectional reaction force, a non magnetic axial ring 
is interposed BETWEEN the plates of the axial capacitor itself. This then 
allows for free electron movement across the width of said ring from the 
exterior electric field, which in turn can THEN be deflected by the 
simultaneously timed magnetic field in oscillation. However all these measures 
should then only produce a circular direct current pulse through the ring 
itself. Now in the next measure that ring itself is also rotated by an external 
force, and THEN the reaction forces considered.

All this of course is science fiction for now, but it makes me wonder about the 
swirling mercury used in the bell as they say, ect...

Now lets get back down to earth again.
It seems feasible that a titanium dioxide/wax capacitor can be made also as an 
electret. We have 5 lb.s of this pigment on hand, and now we have the 
concentric plates for the melted material for testing. With the hardware here 
it is easy to put a high voltage electric field on the sample during cooling. 
Those are the first tests to be made.

As noted ferrite powder has been made into wax concentrates also.
Now imagine, as John Lennon used to say, that we make a wax concentrate that 
allows BOTH Electric AND Magnetic field lines be amplified.

The Electret needs a DC Electric field to be the source of the imprint, 
likewise does the magnetic process.

But here we have the possibility of using simultaneously timed Magnetic and 
Electric Fields as ALTERNATING FIELDS orthogonally within the sample; WHERE THE 
SAMPLE ITSELF IS ROTATED SYNCHRONIOUSLY WITH THE IMPOSED FREQUENCY.

What this means conceptially is that during one axial rotation of the sample to 
be imprinted at the designated frequency,BOTH ELECTRIC AND MAGNETIC FIELDS of 
the dual phased sourcings simultaneously expand and collapse. This if the 
sample being somewhat conductive in molten stage will induce a voltage to make 
a circular current on the outside circumference cross sectional area as the 
UNIDIRECTONAL lorentz force law would cause. In the next rotation even though 
the fields reverse polarity, the lorentz force does not.

Now if we just use magnetization, not electrets for the example, we might say 
the sample is being magnetised in rotation, but taking frames of reference into 
consideration, THE MAGNETISING SOURCE RELATIVE TO THE SAMPLE TO BE MAGNETISED 
IS IN RELATIVE NON MOVEMENT, EXCEPT FOR THE MOVEMENT OF THE FIELDS MADE IN TIME 
ITSELF WHICH WE SEE AS THE EXPANSION AND COLLAPSE OF THOSE FIELDS.

Of course this is only an analogy since magnets are created from a huge voltage 
discharge from capacitors, so perhaps the analogy is better made as a 
rotationally timed electret experiment...

Leaving all this go for future reference the following is the subject of the 
posting. Forget about Ac and rotation ect. I would wish to start from the 
beginning.

My high induction coil 60 hz binary resonant system probably produces about 
2500 volts open circuit at 120 VAC wall input. I have now ordered high voltage 
diodes to handle this voltage.

Now if these stainless steel cylinders as cells are filled with fairly 
conductive water, such as rainwater ect... the low resistance of the load, 
combined with the voltage drop of the rectification system; this compared to 
the 20,000 ohm internal impedance of the resonant supply LC parameters means 
that the conductive load will always have very little voltage across it.

But as water turns to ice, as I recall it becomes very resistive.
But with this resonant supply as the resistance rises, so does the input 
voltage, here c
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