ABD and Jed. You are both completely failing to digest the point that this
interview at Fleishmann's house was arranged and agreed months in advance.
Jed and ABD's's bluster, imputing invasion of privacy, is ridiculous. If
someone turns up for a scheduled interview it is not an invasion of
privacy - there is no privacy angle whatsoever involved.
JR: "Fleischmann is under no obligation to meet with Krivit or anyone else.
He is under no obligation to give a reason why he does not wish to speak
with Krivit." Yes he is if he agreed to it - even if Steve lived in the same
town. That flights, travel, expense and a lot of time were involved as well
makes it doubly so. It is very rude to behave otherwise. Perhaps you also
missed that the factor that caused all this interference with a long
arranged interview was the SUBSEQUENT involvement of the Energetics types
who presumably caused the effective reneging by Martin of his being able to
make the scheduled appointment *while he was still in the US* and healthy
enough to do "several interviews". Their involvement caused Martin to delay
his return to the UK. I already mentioned that flights and accommodation had
to be altered because of this.
JR: "When Sheila told you Martin did not wish to see you, that should have
been the end of the story."
She did not say that. I remember it as Freilino saying that Martin was to
ill to see anyone (which is not the same as not wishing to see us) - Sheila
only acquiesced. That is quite different. In any event, it really was the
end of that story because then we wished the Fleischmanns well and left.
ABD: "Nick, you are here reporting as fact what Krivit told you, with not
the bare text but with interpretation, such as "stonewalling."
You guessed and you were wrong. The conversation with Freilino was on
speaker phone. I heard all but the first couple of words of it. I will go
further - I felt that the tone that Freilino adopted was sinister and heavy.
At that point we did not know it was Freilino (he did not identify himself),
or indeed that there would be anyone other than the Fleischmanns there. I
found it very chilling. He claimed that he spoke on behalf of the medical
team (implying more than one) and to a Brit, used to the British Health
Service the way he said it made my flesh crawl. A medical team to us
suggests that someone is at death's door and the team is working frantically
to save them - not giving them minor exercises to do at defined intervals
in some born-again biorhythms new-age "medical procedure".
JR: "As it happens I suffer from neurological problems similar to
Fleischmann's"
As it happens, my wife suffers from similar neurological problems which
could render her incapable of doing an interview, chainsawing or picking up
a spoon. If she was well enough to do interviews in one continent, travel to
another then fly on to a conference, all within a few days there is no way
in hell she could be reasonably well, extremely ill and reasonably well
again so fast. It is clear to me, who was there, that Freilino was
controlling the situation. It is perfectly possible that Martin was tired,
or very tired, by his trip back home but that is not what Freilino said - he
said he was too ill.
ABD: (about me) "I don't doubt your honesty in the report, but most of your
report wasn't your own direct experience, but quite likely hearsay from
Steve; yet you would have witnessed some of what Steve reported, and you
omitted the negative parts of it from your own report."
Again you are wrong - it wasn't hearsay neither did I omit anything
significant. The only part I cannot swear by is Martin's comment that it was
"other people" (rather than him) who were behind the obfuscation because I
did not go on to Rome.
Nick Palmer
On the side of the Planet - and the people - because they're worth it
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