On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > In fact they claimed this back before their earlier demo, which was > supposed to show just such a motor, if I recall correctly; however, it > didn't.
We expected them to finally at long last prove in a simple manner that the device is real. We wait for the announcement and videos. But then ...they don't?! What? IT CONTAINS A BATTERY? WTF!!!! ARE THOSE ASSHOLES TOTALTY FREEKING INSANE?!!! Oh, sorry I forgot. That's just scammer behavior #8 8. The company performs public demonstrations... but something always goes wrong. If it's a scam, then the "failure" was planned all along. When the inventor starts a demonstration, watch for the "failure" which excuses the inventor from having to actually prove the device. Or more rarely, the demonstration is simple fraud, such as a hidden power supply, or something similar to water-to-gasoline chemistry demonstrations where the stirring spoon has a wax plug which melts and releases the gasoline from a hidden pocket. So the "failure" was to inadvertently include a battery. A battery. In a FE demonstration. Oops. It was by accident. They have a good excuse. Really. After seeing that, some people might give Steorn... the benefit of the doubt. I bet that's the 30th time they gave it. (After all, if you or I were building that demo device, we'd think nothing of including a battery, right? NOoo!) Oh, here's another one. Scammers don't only take investors. They need to separate marks from their money, so they also do things to get thousands of people to send them smaller amounts of money. Sell expensive plans (which all the small disgusting normal people can't afford.) Let them join an insider club that gives out secret info that the unwashed rabble never sees. 7. It's NOT the company's number one goal to prove that the invention is real. The scam company seems to have no goal besides creating an aura of attractive secrets: secrets which will only be revealed to an in-group of "superior" blue-blooded investors, while we rabble on the outside are obviously inferior since we haven't invested and don't know the secrets. (It's the old "treasure map" trick, playing to your victim's self- importance.) Scamsters have all sorts of other tricks to appeal to snobbery or play up to the egos of investors. They also have many really sensible excuses for not proving that their discovery is real. But honest companies just sit down and prove their claims beyond any doubt BEFORE gathering investors. After all, its unethical to take investors' money for extremely questionable and totally unproven devices as if they were normal inventions developed by reliable companies. I wrote that, when? Late 2005? Was that before Steorn's stuff? (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
