Good points, Terry. If we were there, however, they might have needed to eliminate us ;)
The most impressive implication to me was the almost instantaneous heat from loading, which in itself is not a complete surprise - but the 2 eV available from loading alone without deuterium (contrast that to about .5 eV if the hydrogen were burned in air) is a huge surprise - and the fact that there is negative energy from differing flow conditions. Wow. This is indicative of the possibility of being able to rapidly alternate the applied pressure conditions in order to extract the heat gain from pressure differential - via the same mechanical device doing the pressure swing.. Essentially that is what happens in a piston or Stirling engine, no? Jones As to the source of the gain ?? Besides the "usual suspects" including the Haisch-Moddell Casimir gain, consider the Dufour "pico-gravity" hypothesis. http://www.gravitation.org/Start/Foerderpreis/APPLICATION_FOR_GODE_PRIZE-J.D UFOUR.pdf -----Original Message----- From: Terry Blanton It is very difficult to understand this experiment. There is so much left unsaid. As I understand it, the first phase loading with zero change in pressure and the second phase loading is marked when pressure begins to increase presuming that all D&H flow is being absorbed in the first phase. I also assume they determined the loading ratios by the flow rates instead of weighing the loaded samples. Are we to assume that multiple runs were with new Pd? In other words, the six PZ runs used six PZ samples. Or were they progressive runs with two samples. <sigh> I guess you had to be there. Terry

