At 01:48 AM 2/11/2010, Mark Iverson wrote:

"So, it looks to me like Naudin's playing games with his measurements.
His setup's interesting but I would hesitate to trust a single measurement on that page."

You guys are pathetic... You're looking for any little discrepancy in other people's work, and when you find one, YOU IMMEDIATELY accuse the person of some conscious attempt at fakery or nefarious
intentions.

People who respond to a single person's post with general accusations about "you guys" are pathetic.

In addition, "hesitate to trust" is hardly an accusation "of some conscious attempt at fakery or nefarious intentions." Mr. Lawrence had first more or less praised Naudin's work (which was interesting), but, then, seeing a change with no note, on a matter of some importance, he simply retracted his reliance on Naudin. Naudin could easily fix this by explaining the change. I saw no accusation of "fakery," just a concern about a disconcerting change in the presentation of data.

Man, I would hate to be in such a sorry state that my first impulse is to judge and ridicule and cast derogatory remarks about someone... It's either that or you feel the need to show everyone how smart you are by trying to find fault everywhere else but yourselves... Grow up!

Read your own advice and follow it. Clearly Lawrence was *not* showing a "first impulse" to "judge and ridicule," and that you "saw" this will tell you reams about yourself if you let this information in.

Perhaps JLN made some improvements and simply posted the new and improved pics on his site as the current state of performance; why does he need to keep old data up there when it doesn't represent what he's currently accomplished? Just to satisfy behaviorally challenged judgementals like
yourself?

No, when information is published, and is later changed to show better information, a serious writer will note the change and explain it. The old information showed an important phenomenon, as I recall. The new pics did not. The change was not merely an "improvement." I.e., Naudin is presenting experimental results. If he gets a different result, later, the older work is not obsolete. If there was an error, the appropriate response is correction, not just substitution. But Naudin isn't a professional (or is he?). He isn't expected to be perfect. Nobody cried "fakery" here but you, Mark.

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