Horace,
They are discussing same on HSG presently. Regards Fran <http://forum.hydrino.org/viewtopic.php?p=6878&sid=0ab0baf3ad879d779b8db39bc 9149330#p6878> Postby JohnEB <http://forum.hydrino.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=148&sid=0ab0baf3 ad879d779b8db39bc9149330> on March 12th, 2010, 5:21 pm Andrew: To add to the confusion, we have the work of R. M. Santilli. He seems to like an asymmetric time. See: http://www.magnegas.com/index.html http://www.santilli-foundation.org/sant <http://www.santilli-foundation.org/santilli-scientific-discoveries.html> ... eries.html JohnEB <http://forum.hydrino.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=148&sid=0ab0baf3 ad879d779b8db39bc9149330> Posts: 1682 Joined: December 22nd, 2008, 12:42 pm View of GUT-CP: Supporter Top <http://forum.hydrino.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=235&sid=0ab0baf3ad879d779b8db3 9bc9149330&start=50#wrap> _____ Re: <http://forum.hydrino.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=235&sid=0ab0baf3ad879d779b8db3 9bc9149330&start=50#p6880> Alternate Theory of Pycnodeuterium <http://forum.hydrino.org/viewtopic.php?p=6880&sid=0ab0baf3ad879d779b8db39bc 9149330#p6880> Postby meulenberg <http://forum.hydrino.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=118&sid=0ab0baf3 ad879d779b8db39bc9149330> on March 12th, 2010, 10:26 pm JohnEB wrote:Andrew: To add to the confusion, we have the work of R. M. Santilli. He seems to like an asymmetric time. See: http://www.magnegas.com/index.html http://www.santilli-foundation.org/sant <http://www.santilli-foundation.org/santilli-scientific-discoveries.html> ... eries.html JohnEB, Thank you for the timely reference. I had encountered Santilli's website before in a different context, been interested, but ran out of time to look into it. Would you interpret http://www.i-b-r.org/NeutronSynthesisNCA-I.pdf to be an independent production (and therefore verification) of deep-level hydrinos? Santilli's use of the word neutroid (instead of hydrino) and lack of reference to Mill' (or to Naudts') work seems to indicate complete independence from BLP or LENR work. The fact that this is a verification of a prior researcher's results (Borghi, 1969) would also indicate that this is not a random event - or a con job. Santilli's explanation (from Borghi's hypothesis?) is remarkably similar to my suggestion for a possible decay channel (leading to transmutation) in the cold fusion process for H-H or D-D interactions in the solid state. It looks as if things might be coming together! AndrewM meulenberg <http://forum.hydrino.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=118&sid=0ab0baf3 ad879d779b8db39bc9149330> Posts: 92 Joined: December 18th, 2008, 8:20 am View of GUT-CP: Fence-Sitter Top <http://forum.hydrino.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=235&sid=0ab0baf3ad879d779b8db3 9bc9149330&start=50#wrap> _____ Re: <http://forum.hydrino.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=235&sid=0ab0baf3ad879d779b8db3 9bc9149330&start=50#p6881> Alternate Theory of Pycnodeuterium <http://forum.hydrino.org/viewtopic.php?p=6881&sid=0ab0baf3ad879d779b8db39bc 9149330#p6881> Postby JohnEB <http://forum.hydrino.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=148&sid=0ab0baf3 ad879d779b8db39bc9149330> on March 13th, 2010, 7:26 am Andrew said: Would you interpret http://www.i-b-r.org/NeutronSynthesisNCA-I.pdf to be an independent production (and therefore verification) of deep-level hydrinos? Santilli's use of the word neutroid (instead of hydrino) and lack of reference to Mill' (or to Naudts') work seems to indicate complete independence from BLP or LENR work. The fact that this is a verification of a prior researcher's results (Borghi, 1969) would also indicate that this is not a random event - or a con job. I agree Andrew. One thing is certain - we have been immersed in the "scientifically pathetic" for a long time. JohnEB <http://forum.hydrino.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=148&sid=0ab0baf3 ad879d779b8db39bc9149330> Posts: 1682 Joined: December 22nd, 2008, 12:42 pm View of GUT-CP: Supporter Top <http://forum.hydrino.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=235&sid=0ab0baf3ad879d779b8db3 9bc9149330&start=50#wrap> _____ Re: <http://forum.hydrino.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=235&sid=0ab0baf3ad879d779b8db3 9bc9149330&start=50#p6882> Alternate Theory of Pycnodeuterium <http://forum.hydrino.org/viewtopic.php?p=6882&sid=0ab0baf3ad879d779b8db39bc 9149330#p6882> Postby underante <http://forum.hydrino.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3154&sid=0ab0baf 3ad879d779b8db39bc9149330> on March 13th, 2010, 9:12 am meulenberg wrote: . . . Santilli's use of the word neutroid (instead of hydrino) and lack of reference to Mill' (or to Naudts') work seems to indicate complete independence from BLP or LENR work . . . AndrewM as it so happens, in a previous version of this paper (august 2006) still available for download from the arxiv http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0608229v1 , reference is in fact made to dr mills endeavours in this area. despite this omission however, a change of title, and no mention of arcogen in favour of neutroids, it seems that santilli was still unable to get published in the regular journals. pity. though i dare say that by free web publishing far more people will likely read about what he's been up to, since no expensive subscription is now required. and it does make a most entertaining read what with all these shenanigans involving implosions, sonic and vibrational alarms going off, left, right and centre, being obliged to vacate the lab on several occasions for reasons of health and safety, and the morning after having to manually impact the klystron to get a reading on his neutron detector! (hah! give the darn thing a good thump, he means!) i wonder if dr mills ever has so much fun and games in his hydrino factory? regards f.c Last edited by underante <http://forum.hydrino.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3154&sid=0ab0baf 3ad879d779b8db39bc9149330> on March 13th, 2010, 6:16 pm, edited 1 time in total. underante <http://forum.hydrino.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3154&sid=0ab0baf 3ad879d779b8db39bc9149330> Posts: 54 Joined: October 5th, 2009, 3:53 pm View of GUT-CP: Fence-Sitter Top <http://forum.hydrino.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=235&sid=0ab0baf3ad879d779b8db3 9bc9149330&start=50#wrap> _____ Re: <http://forum.hydrino.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=235&sid=0ab0baf3ad879d779b8db3 9bc9149330&start=50#p6884> Alternate Theory of Pycnodeuterium <http://forum.hydrino.org/viewtopic.php?p=6884&sid=0ab0baf3ad879d779b8db39bc 9149330#p6884> Postby meulenberg <http://forum.hydrino.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=118&sid=0ab0baf3 ad879d779b8db39bc9149330> on March 13th, 2010, 11:56 am underante wrote: ... it seems that Santilli was still unable to get published in the regular journals. pity. though i dare say that by free web publishing far more people will likely read about what he's been up to, since no expensive subscription is now required.... You'll note that his last entry in the arXiv was late 2006. He has written things since then. I suspect that arXiv has "caught up" with him. His anti-academic attitude has probably pushed them into the present denial of accepting his recent papers as being from a non-university source. AndrewM
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