Thank you for calling CF a surface effect, perhaps we have to add that it is
a local effect,
only separate point like active sites generate the heat.
Unfortunately micron thin layers evaoprate immediately- can you imagine how
much is 100W.sq.cm? And can you tell me a single* real example of heat
excess obtained with such layers in the Pd/D2O system?* I have not lied when
I was alive, should strat do it now? Should I give non-usable examples,
advices  to my grandson???

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Michel Jullian <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi, Peter-in-the-grave :) Since CF is a surface effect, how about
> plating just a few microns of Pd onto some cheaper metal?
>
> 2010/3/26 Peter Gluck <[email protected]>:
> > Nice to hear from you, Terry. The trouble is that 0.1 mm is too thin, Pd
> > overheats, melts- losses, problems etc. Can you calculate the surface
> > temperature of the metal at a heat release of 100 Watts per square
> > centimenter?
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> A bit of realistic sci-fi..
> >> January 6, 2028- my grandson who was educated in the spirit
> >> of new energy, cold fusion is wonderful - has succeeded to
> >> work out the perfectly reproducible energy generating method.
> >> In the frame of a Pd - D2O system.
> >> He is a respected citizen and as it is almost compulsory in
> >> the New Moneytheistic society- a billionaire. He calls the
> >> Chief Economist of his company:
> >> "Mark, please buy the reserves of palladium any gram you
> >> can we are going to conquer the world of energy, to replace
> >> any dirty fossil fuel.. you see itis winter and it is so warm...
> >> In two weeks the economist succeeds to buy 150 tonnes
> >> of palladium. a real wizard.
> >> My grandson's system releases 100 W per 1 sq.cm
> >> of palladium, which is in the form of a thin layer of
> >> 0.2 millimetres i.e 1 x 0.02 x 12 = 0.24 grams.
> >> It is now simple to calculate that if
> >> 0.24 g. give a power of 100 W, 200,000,000 g.
> >> will give- 8.4 10 exp 10 W or  8.4 10 exp 7 kW. in a
> >> more pragmatical language 84 millions of kWatts
> >> Or 84,000 MWatts. (US consumes now appr.
> >> 270,000 MWatts electricity)
> >> Next step- how many kWatts is Mankind consuming.
> >> Oh not so much, we are clever and are back at the value
> >> of 2008. But this value is a bit greater-than what can CF give
> >> He concludes:
> >> the CF system can contribute but cannot conquer the market
> >> of energy.
> >> He visits my grave and has a long imaginary discussion
> >> with me. I ask him to do better mathematics and
> >> use the best data. Can you help him? Thanks!
> >
> >
>
>

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