Kirvit is an investigative journalist,rather than just reporting the facts.

Harry




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> From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 11:58:07 AM
> Subject: [Vo]:Another pick-up of Krivit's screed
> 
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> href="http://beforeitsnews.com/news/26739/Krivit_says_cold_fusion_is_not_fusion_but_LENR.html";
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> target=_blank 
> >http://beforeitsnews.com/news/26739/Krivit_says_cold_fusion_is_not_fusion_but_LENR.html

As 
> with a few of the citations, this one does get that Krivit is still promoting 
> LENR.

I find it fascinating that the only skeptical questions at the 
> press conference were from Krivit; I was amazed at how many questions they 
> allowed him to ask, but I suppose if nobody else was turned away, it could 
> have 
> been okay. They were not intelligible to a general audience, they seemed to 
> be 
> attempts to force these scientists to answer heavily loaded questions, useful 
> only to Krivit and his agenda. It seems he's managed to alienate most of the 
> researchers in the field.

It is not the job of a reporter to "challenge 
> dogma." It is the job of a reporter to find and present facts, and of a 
> science 
> reporter to find and present scientific fact. Definitely, if there are 
> inconvenient questions, they should be asked. But scientists are human; they 
> make mistakes, and if you start trying to show that the mistakes were 
> intentionally deceptive, or that the researcher is being intellectually 
> dishonest and covering it up, or that the scientist is otherwise engaged in 
> reprehensible conduct, you become a hostile prosecutor, not a reporter, 
> mind-reading and judging, and they will stop answering your 
> questions.

There is a job to be done, to educate the public, and 
> skeptical scientists. What is known about cold fusion? What is the state of 
> the 
> research, what avenues are being explored? What criticism is there of the 
> body 
> of work? What is the *actual scientific consensus*?

"Scientific 
> consensus" isn't a survey taken of all scientists, it is a social phenomenon, 
> and we must assume that it appears among those familiar with the field. 
> Scientists get their news from the media like everyone else, except in a 
> field 
> where they closely follow the journals and other current activity. A particle 
> physicist is not an expert on what chemists are finding, and vice-versa. I'd 
> like to leave the final say on what cold fusion involves to the theoretical 
> physicists, those who take on the tough math of quantum field theory, 
> necessary 
> in condensed matter, and that will take, I predict, a lot of time.

But 
> the actual experimental work is mostly a chemistry experiment of one kind or 
> another. Even the "nuclear" tools used are found, most commonly, with 
> non-nuclear-physics work: SSNTDs, widely used for dosimetry, radiation 
> detectors 
> of other kinds, used for indentifying radioisotopes.

Condensed matter 
> nuclear science is a new field, a synthesis or crossover field. Who are the 
> experts? There is little or no formal answer, but we could look to those who 
> have published work; the peer-review process indicates a finding of some 
> level 
> of expertise. There are no recent published critiques of the field from 
> "outside." Kowalski may have been off in his critique of the SPAWAR work, or 
> not, but he's not a cold fusion skeptic -- and he was at least partially 
> right.

If we look at recent published work, which would almost always be 
> an indication of current scientific consensus, it's entirely positive on the 
> LENR issue. There are condensed matter states which are producing nuclear 
> reactions, unexpected from prior theory. The work has largely turned from 
> trying 
> to prove this to investigating details.

How can we communicate this? What 
> we are dealing with is a common human phenomenon, that people assume that 
> what 
> they believed twenty years ago, which was at least somewhat rational then, is 
> still just as rational. It's frustrating to see the same canards repeated 
> over 
> and over, such as the one that Fleischmann's work could not be replicated. It 
> was true for maybe a few months. Then not true any longer.

The arguments 
> against cold fusion began as normal skepticism and even cogent criticism. 
> Fleischmann really did fall into a big error with that gamma spectrum, 
> claiming 
> neutron radiation. But ... where it began is not where it went. It went into 
> standing assumptions that any report must be an error. That's politics, not 
> science.


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