From: Roarty, Francis X
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 9:19 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: hydrogen pressurized nickel tube in Potassium carbonate

Mike I agree the "theoretical" concepts between Mills and Arata are poles apart 
but they are both based on the same
Exploitable physical environment of a saturated lattice. It doesn't matter if 
they refer to condensed matter, fractional states of hydrogen or Casimir 
effect. The methods may be related through some Casimir enhanced interim step 
or they may be independent but are both only possible based on the saturated 
environment.

What surprised me about this early paper 
http://hydrino.org/documents/anomalous-heat-from-atomic-hydrogen.pdf
Was the constant circulation of monatomic  hydrogen through the catalytic 
layer. It is only one layer compared to the Haisch- Moddel patent where 
hundreds of stacked plates forming columns of .1u Casimir cavities separated by 
insulating layers force the fractional hydrogen to constantly translate between 
normal and fractional values as it circulates through the columns. Most 
pressurized systems like Aratas' nested Pd reactor simply pressurize without 
circulation. I have a pet theory that fractional dihydrinos resist change in 
Casimir geometry / catalytic action while atomic hydrogen can translate freely 
between fractional states. This would create an asymmetry for translation due 
to catalytic/Casimir action based on the state of the atomic bond. This would 
make the circulation outlined in the H&M patent a key component to liberating 
the energy. Professor Moddel has already done some math regarding the
COE of pushing the gas through their proposed prototype and surprisingly the 
counter force opposing circulation is not conservative. IMHO this method 
organizes the normally chaotic energy of gas law to help break the diatomic 
bond to free the fractional atoms to translate to a new value - We would never 
be aware of this force as exploitable in the macro world because you need an 
environment that organizes atoms into different fractional values to exploit.
Regards
Fran

On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 16:11: Mike Carrell said
Fran,

I haven't seen the paper you refer to. Mills conducted other experiments
with thin-walled nickel tubing, with the tubing evacuated and coupled to a
mass spectrometer. The objective was to detect hydrinos wich diffused
through the tubing wall after being created at the outer surface. My
understanding that at the time there was some disagreements between
Thermacore and Mills, each going their own way. I wasn't tracking Mills'
work closely at the time. Better sources may be Tom Stolper, who wrote two
books about Mills, the last being titled "America's Newton. The other surce
would be Dr. John Farrell, a close associate of Mills, who moderates
"Society for Classical Physics" list.



The physical concepts underlying Mills' and Arata's work are poles apart.
Mills' is chemistry, Arata's is nuclear physics.



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