EVERYBODY STIFLE!! As Archie Bunker would say - I wanted an open minded debate 
but people are starting to exchange insults (whack jobs vs ignorant) when they 
should be looking for the common ground. I am an electronics type and know the 
easiest way to solve a problem is to reverse engineer the theory from existing 
evidence. Both sides have some really good analogies, theory and math but I 
don't see them as mutually exclusive. My relativistic slant on ZPE puts me into 
an odd perspective where these theories are related or at very least can 
coexist minus the semantics. I think both sides would agree the phenomena is 
enhanced by mechanical energy and that some sort of translation must occur to 
the speed of EM transmission relative to the fixed speed of  mechanical 
transmission to "match the impedance" or "find the sweet spot" where the 
anomaly occurs most frequently.  The real test is whether  the math Frank 
proposes will provide a better design for an "Energetics" type device?
Regards
Fran

From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:speed of light = transmission speed of the crystals 
phonon vibration

From: Terry Blanton

ZPE does not exhibit a gravitational effect because it balances in two 
different metrics, one with positive energy and one with negative.  The virtual 
particles with half energy spin are constantly rotating between six dimensions, 
three in our space and three in a negative energy space.  The only places there 
is an unbalance that we know are in Casimir cavities and black hole event 
horizons.

half energy spin => half integer spin


Not to mention the almost humorous level of ignorance implied in a suggestion 
that extra-dimensionality somehow equates with "magic"...

...except in the primitive context that everything one cannot grasp must be 
categorized as magic ...

"the gods must be crazy"...

Jones

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