EVERYBODY STIFLE!! As Archie Bunker would say - I wanted an open minded debate but people are starting to exchange insults (whack jobs vs ignorant) when they should be looking for the common ground. I am an electronics type and know the easiest way to solve a problem is to reverse engineer the theory from existing evidence. Both sides have some really good analogies, theory and math but I don't see them as mutually exclusive. My relativistic slant on ZPE puts me into an odd perspective where these theories are related or at very least can coexist minus the semantics. I think both sides would agree the phenomena is enhanced by mechanical energy and that some sort of translation must occur to the speed of EM transmission relative to the fixed speed of mechanical transmission to "match the impedance" or "find the sweet spot" where the anomaly occurs most frequently. The real test is whether the math Frank proposes will provide a better design for an "Energetics" type device? Regards Fran
From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:speed of light = transmission speed of the crystals phonon vibration From: Terry Blanton ZPE does not exhibit a gravitational effect because it balances in two different metrics, one with positive energy and one with negative. The virtual particles with half energy spin are constantly rotating between six dimensions, three in our space and three in a negative energy space. The only places there is an unbalance that we know are in Casimir cavities and black hole event horizons. half energy spin => half integer spin Not to mention the almost humorous level of ignorance implied in a suggestion that extra-dimensionality somehow equates with "magic"... ...except in the primitive context that everything one cannot grasp must be categorized as magic ... "the gods must be crazy"... Jones

