In reply to  francis 's message of Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:02:39 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]

Note that several noble gasses (He, Ar, Ne, perhaps Xe) also act as Mills
catalysts.

>"The Mystery and Legacy of Joseph Papp's Noble Gas Engine"  by Eugene F.
>Mallove
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>http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue51/papp.html is a similar ZPE
>reaction to the one I am proposing . I had assumed 
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>that noble gases would ONLY act as insulators helping to isolate
>conductive/catalytic pockets of gas geometry similar to the way Haisch and
>Moddel's prototype
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>has insulating layers between the active Casimir/catalytic layers to force
>the migrating gases to translate through a wide range of vacuum energy
>density - Haisch and Moddel concentrated on the Lamb pinch with unheated
>noble gas while I suggest their environment could be utilized to force
>catalytic disassociation of diatomic gases like hydrogen. My premise being
>that any molecular gas opposes the translation to different vacuum energy
>densities while atomic gas translates freely creating an asymmetrical path.
>This concept would go unnoticed and unexploited on the macro scale since
>such changes only occur on a large scale as the result of a gravitational
>gradient where energy density increases as you travel deeper into a gravity
>well. At the nano scale however you have a break in this isotropy due to
>suppression induced by Casimir geometry. It is my position that change in
>this Casimir geometry is responsible for catalytic action. Unlike the
>increased energy density due to a gravity well we see decreased energy
>density due to suppression and it occurs abruptly at the plates/ walls of a
>Casimir cavity. These walls can take the form of a compressed meniscus in a
>liquid medium and should have a gaseous equivalent when different gases of
>different bonding affinities are rapidly mixed in a COMBUSTION chamber.
>After reading the article above it is clear there was no combustion
>occurring in the Papp engine as there was no exhaust. I humbly suggest this
>was an endless ZPE reaction that catalytically disassociated noble  gas
>compounds - Wikipedia does list a limited number of chemical compounds that
>noble gases can form so it could act as both monatomic insulator and
>reactant compound. Once disassociated the atomic gases translate freely to
>the current vacuum energy density and are then free to reform their chemical
>compounds at the local energy density and release energy as they reform
>compounds and fall to the lower energy state. The catalytic disassociation
>replenishes the atomic energy state each time courtesy of ZPE. The heat
>released by this process would be self limiting since it pushes the piston
>back up to both cool the plasma and release the pressure causing these
>bubble like pockets of Casimir geometry. I think the spark mechanism may
>have been more to keep the mechanical timing and crank direction under
>control or you would get frequent reversals and possible explosions and so
>you would want to run it just below threshold and use the spark to delay the
>reaction past top dead center - I think a multiple cylinder engine would
>have been much safer.
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>Regards
>
>Fran
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>On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:44 Robin wrote
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>Don't forget that there is likely to be a fair bit of free Hydrogen in a
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>normal IC engine running on gasoline, which after all is a "Hydro"-carbon.
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>So if H is anywhere near a reasonable catalyst, then we are likely already
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>seeing Hydrino energy in normal combustion engines. [/snip]
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>Yes hydrino combustion probably is occurring inside a normal ICE to a
>limited degree 
>but I am still convinced that oxygen is the bane of this reaction.
>Combustion is a one 
>way reaction that removes the hydrogen. If the plasma can be oxygen starved
>the fractional/ hydrino 
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>states can Continue to expand over a wider range. I think a diesel like
>heater in the ICE could
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>bring a noncombustible mix of hydrogen and other gases up close to the
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>threshold of a runaway ZPE reaction and then the piston stroke would act
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>like the PWM in the Rossi device to compress the plasma over the threshold
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>in one direction then reverses to expand and cool the plasma back under the
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>threshold. My posit of an endless ashless reaction is based on a super
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>catalytic disassociation where nano geometry pockets of catalyst gas oppose
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>and disassociate molecular hydrogen or hydrinos - I don't think the
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>fractional states would be as acute as in a solid skeletal cat or nano
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>powders but there is no danger of damaging the geometry since they are
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>constantly reforming in a gas medium similar to bubbles in the liquid medium
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>of bubble fusion. IMHO the dihydrinos would disassociate/reform multiple
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>times giving off heat every time they reform to heat the gas and push the
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>piston back up.
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>Regards
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>Fran
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Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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