On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:45 Mark Iverson wrote [snip] This also sounds a little like 'hydrinos' but Prof. Winterberg tries to explain this through a Bose-Einstein condensation. The nucleus of the deuterium is already a Bose particle (spin 0 or 1 here) and the electrons (Fermi particles) have 1/2 spin but if they could couple, similar to a superconductor, then a whole bunch of deuterium could form a Bose-Einstein condensate and it follows a different statistic. Winterberg suggests that the electrons form a vortex and the deuterium nuclei are circling this vortex and this allows a very small orbit, therefore a super dense state.[/snip] This seems to support my position of a relativistic interpretation of suppression /Casimir force and why Bourgoin used math normally reserved for the spin state of photons to describe the hydrino orbits and why there is a controversy over the Bohr orbit being 700 trillion times a second or stationary. The "motion" doesn't exist from our perspective because it is on the temporal axis relative to us. Locally I propose a Neo Lorentzian ether that pushes the electron much harder than the more condensed nuclei and so the electron is kept trailing behind the nuclei on the time axis varying by what it perceives as a spatial displacement from the nucleus based on this flow of a virtual particle stream which only becomes physical as it intersects our 3d plane- basically separating electrons from nuclei by what Puthoff describes as "pressure". The dense hydrogen is stacked in a different equivalent frame similar to storing terminal patients in a deep gravity well while waiting for medical science to catch up only the energy density is negative instead of increased making the time dilation accelerated instead of delayed - I suspect catalytic action is actually this same accelerated time dilation. Unlike the slow astronomical gradients of a gravity well to increase energy density the decreased density caused by suppression geometry is abrupt and provides the opportunity to have different inertial frames stationary relative to each other at the nano scale. Fran
