On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:

> Esa Ruoho <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> So I guess they have to wait till Steorn's Orbo 15kW heater instead of the
>> 18kW. I dunno, why would alt.energy/FE people be so interested in Andrea
>> Rossi's E-Cat if it is so radioactive?
>>
> I don't get the Orbo claim. I have not been following this, but isn't it
> some kind of magnetic motor, or a rotating perpetual motion machine? Why are
> they now talking about a heater, and not a generator? How is the heater
> supposed to work?
>

The Steorn anomaly thing started as an anomalous measurement while they were
working on developing a microwindturbine for their ATM surveillance system
that they were commissioned to create. They spent a load of time trying to
figure out what they were measuring wrong and eventually realized that they
were actually cancelling BackEMF - which seems to be some sort of friction
which is accepted as a "must-always-happen"-type event by regular Electrical
Engineers. So they've been trying to demonstrate it to engineers and to the
public, that BackEMF can be cancelled or "tuned out" when certain magnetic
interactions are happening at a certain speed. They've also been producing
calorimetry measurements this way and that way, saying that  not only did
their Waterways Dec2009 demonstration cancel out BackEMF  and thus act as a
self-running device (at a certain RPM), but that the extra energy that the
interaction pulls into the system  was dissipated as heat. If they are now
getting towards a 3rd party product, the first Orbo-using device, which, as
http://twitter.com/SteornOfficial has referred to it, was 1kW around 20th
March, 3kW around 27th March ( "3 kW - in the palm or your hand - just so
cool!" ), and the latest Tweet from SteornOfficial, as a response to a
person who asked them, stated "Yep, within the next 4 weeks we plan to
release info on a 15 kW heating element.". So let's see what kind of
information they release this time, altho I'd be more interested in an Orbo
iPhone charger, to be honest - that could take off  way better  as a dinky
geeky d-i-y kinda device  than these heaters. Anyway, Godspeed to both
Rossi+Steorn & Co  and everyone else, we could use anything that  functions
(both measurably and as an appliance) AND doesn't comform to the Mainstream
opinions of Cold Fusion or Magnetic Interactions.

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