# Re: [Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device

```>When 4kW is added to such a waterflow the temperature would rise
>instantaneously to 100 degr C.```
```

You are confusing between static and dynamic condition.
It's physically impossible to have a instantaneously rise. You are missing
intertial thermal mass and dynamic conditions.

>The curve in figure 6 rises in about 3 minutes 30 degr C ( steepest part).
>This would compare to a power of only a few watts.

Check your math. With 300 thermal watt you can rise around 40 degrees celsius
with 6.47l/hour.
But you will see this 40 degree rise only when the system is stationary, when
dynamic is over.

From: P.J van Noorden
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 11:19 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Problems with energy calculation Rossi device

Hello

In figure 6 of the article

it is stated that the waterflow is 6.47 l/ hour=  about 2 ml/sec. This is about
the waterflow of a espressomachine.
When 4kW is added to such a waterflow the temperature would rise
instantaneously to 100 degr C. The curve in figure 6 would have to rise
vertically.
If only 400 Watts is added the waterflow the temp would rise 50 degr C in
temperature continously.

The curve in figure 6 rises in about 3 minutes 30 degr C ( steepest part). This
would compare to a power of only a few watts.
Can anybody look at these calculations and figure out what is wrong?

Further it would be interesting to know if water can flow through the "chimney"
of the reactor directly into the black tube. To figure out what is going on one
have to add a substance (dye) to the water and see if the dye can be seen in
the " condensed" water.
If non vaporised water is carried to the end of the black tube this will have
consequences for the calculation of excess heat.

Peter van Noorden```