It was so much trouble with *intensity* because the cathodes - more
precisely the NAE are poisoned with gases that do not allow to D or H to
enter and react. It was also bad for *reproducibility *the systems were
grosso modo unpredictable. One step forward two steps backwards.

As regarding Energetics- do you know how many intense processes (batches)
they had?  I know about  exp. 64. But even that had no *continuity*

Yes, I also think Rossi's great advantage is gas loaded nanoparticles. But
prior to that it is gas unloaded active sites- all the gaseous competitors
of hydrogen are removed completely. I think this is a sine qua non condition
for such a system to work.

Ed Storms has dismissed repeatedly my gas poisoning hypothesis.
What could I say? Not important! But what do the experiments say?
Peter

On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>wrote:

> Peter Gluck <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Calorimetry was a curse and a burden for Pd- D CF/LENR because much more
>> money, creativity, patience, discusions was consumed for measuring small
>> quantities of released heat instead of focussing on the intensification of
>> the process. The results are known.
>
>
> I think Storms or McKubre would take exception to that. Not to speak for
> them, they have often said:
>
> 1. Scaling up Pd-D electrochemistry tends to scale up and amplify the noise
> as much as the signal.
>
> 2. You cannot intensify a process if you cannot even detect it. The main
> purpose of making sensitive calorimeters was to capture and then optimize
> tiny effects. The other purpose was to satisfy the skeptics, which was
> futile.
>
> 3. They did the best they could to intensify it, and succeeded to some
> extent. Techniques such as Energetics Technology produced much higher heat
> and a higher input to output ratio than older techniques; i.e. ~1 W input,
> ~20 W output.
>
> Bear in mind also that one of Rossi's key advantage's is the use of
> gas-loaded nanoparticles. This originated with Pd-D studies, by Arata. I do
> not know if Rossi was aware of Arata when he began working on this approach.
> Perhaps he only found out when he wrote the patent. Anyway, this was a major
> contribution from the Pd-D school of cold fusion.
>
> - Jed
>
>


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Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

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