It was so much trouble with *intensity* because the cathodes - more precisely the NAE are poisoned with gases that do not allow to D or H to enter and react. It was also bad for *reproducibility *the systems were grosso modo unpredictable. One step forward two steps backwards.
As regarding Energetics- do you know how many intense processes (batches) they had? I know about exp. 64. But even that had no *continuity* Yes, I also think Rossi's great advantage is gas loaded nanoparticles. But prior to that it is gas unloaded active sites- all the gaseous competitors of hydrogen are removed completely. I think this is a sine qua non condition for such a system to work. Ed Storms has dismissed repeatedly my gas poisoning hypothesis. What could I say? Not important! But what do the experiments say? Peter On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>wrote: > Peter Gluck <[email protected]> wrote: > > Calorimetry was a curse and a burden for Pd- D CF/LENR because much more >> money, creativity, patience, discusions was consumed for measuring small >> quantities of released heat instead of focussing on the intensification of >> the process. The results are known. > > > I think Storms or McKubre would take exception to that. Not to speak for > them, they have often said: > > 1. Scaling up Pd-D electrochemistry tends to scale up and amplify the noise > as much as the signal. > > 2. You cannot intensify a process if you cannot even detect it. The main > purpose of making sensitive calorimeters was to capture and then optimize > tiny effects. The other purpose was to satisfy the skeptics, which was > futile. > > 3. They did the best they could to intensify it, and succeeded to some > extent. Techniques such as Energetics Technology produced much higher heat > and a higher input to output ratio than older techniques; i.e. ~1 W input, > ~20 W output. > > Bear in mind also that one of Rossi's key advantage's is the use of > gas-loaded nanoparticles. This originated with Pd-D studies, by Arata. I do > not know if Rossi was aware of Arata when he began working on this approach. > Perhaps he only found out when he wrote the patent. Anyway, this was a major > contribution from the Pd-D school of cold fusion. > > - Jed > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

