Robin, I agree thermal is the "primary" source of motion at our scale but ZPE is the "inexhaustible" source at any scale. Gas and Casimir geometry just happen to have properties we can use to exploit this inexhaustible source. The relativistic interpretation of Casimir effect means that the most fractionalized gas atom [1/137] are actually spatially "Decelerated" or "negatively accelerated" from our perspective - just like relativistic space travelers approaching C are "spatially accelerated" and seem to slow down thru negative dilation from our perspective, the atoms in the cavity are "spatially confined" and seem to accelerate thru positive dilation from our perspective. The point being that it is always the differential from our perspective but where the energy potential stems from the object accelerating itself to near C in positive dilation the energy in the case of negative dilation comes from the universe surrounding the Casimir device which races away from the decelerated objects inside the shielded / suppressed energy density inside the cavity. The relationship for the fractionalized observer to the non fractionalized observer outside the cavity is exactly the same as our relationship to the Paradox twin. As long as the difference in energy density / nano geometry is maintained you have a relativistic component that amplifies this otherwise hidden energy source. Remember that relativistic effects are invisible locally so these fractionalized atoms are feeling equivalent acceleration due to changes in Casimir geometry and are traveling through what they perceive as normal space (on our time axis) - completing far too many chemical reactions from our perspective for the "short" time they remained in the cavity but from their own perspective only the normal number of reactions they participated while being inside the cavity for "years" from their own perspective. This again is why I think a relationship between time dilation in the Gamma formula can be related to the Casimir formula. I have been re-considering Jones Beene's posit about negative energy in a book balancing relationship with nuclear reactions, I was opposed because I was thinking additional energy on top of ZPE but Scott Smith's remark about there being too much copper in the ash for the amount of heat now has me wondering if the two energy sources have to be in opposition..or as Jones described it as "an unavoidable nuclear reaction" such that the amount of energy derived is the difference between ZPE and nuclear energy released. This might help explain the reduced Gamma as a "relativistic" nuclear reaction occurring between different vacuum energy densities on an axis we outside the cavity perceive as temporal but inside the cavity is locally perceived as spatial. The copper would indicate a lot of wasted nuclear and ZPE energy cancelling but may be a necessary price to keep the radiation hidden or at least down converted to our frame. I remain unqualified to suggest specific nuclear reactions but I am convinced that atomic and diatomic gas react differently to changes in energy density giving rise to disassociations and sling shot effects where the potential and probability for collisions are greatly enhanced [quantum blender].
Regards Fran mixent Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:03:44 -0700 In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:19:10 -0400: Hi, [snip] >provided gratis by the constant motion of gas[ZPE] ...but AFAIK gas motion is not primarily ZPE driven. It's just the thermal energy of the molecules. So the implication would seem to be that as the energy was extracted, the gas would get colder, until it reached the point where the temperature is maintained by the ZPE (absolute zero?). Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

