Mark,

Interesting story, and maybe it is a premonition of what the lame excuse
from Rossi will be if there is no megawatt demo in October. 

Rothwell can whine, hem, and haw all day about how he believes in his
heart-of-hearts that the sordid TEG business with LTI was not a true scam,
but since he has not taken the time to personally investigate the details,
his opinion is more of the same pampering and pandering of a really strange
character who will probably disappoint all his new fans, in the end.

My prediction is that even before Rossi has a chance to disappoint, others
who are considerable more qualified, and honest, will come to the rescue
with the answers of what is going-on in nickel hydrogen.

If you look at the big picture from the perspective of who has the skill,
funding, desire and teamwork, we should be very glad that NASA is jumping
into Ni-H. They may lack the spark of creativity, or the incredible good
luck, of the lone inventor - but they will not "lose the recipe."

Jones


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Iverson 
I said:
"Perhaps its because Rossi hadn't given them the proper recipe for making
the TE devices?"

Let me explain a bit more...

I've been following (and occasionally helping) with a colleague's company
that has carbon-based
photovoltaic cells that are consistently getting 40% more power than
Shell/BP panels, and don't
degrade with temperature (interesting stuff!)... This has been going on for
over a year now and they
are in the process of working with a semiconductor foundry to commercialize
the technology... I've
visited the foundry in San Jose and I listen in on the weekly phone
conferences, and the film stacks
and process flows can be very detailed and complex, and even a few degrees
of temperature or what
one would think of as insignificant 'contamination' from some other molecule
or gas can mean the
difference between working as expected and dismal failure -- sometimes not
much grey area! The small
foundry that produced the cells that are beating out the BP panels did not
keep good notes/logs and
we've had some trouble figuring out exactly what recipe was used to produce
those cells!!  At this
point, it could even have been a contaminant that has resulted in the much
greater efficiency!

My point is that, given the fact that Rossi is probably not the best of a
lab-note taker, even he
may not have the exact recipe that created the 20% TE devices that were
originally working at LTI...
And maybe he did and didn't divulge it. Its useless to speculate on these
kinds of topics and just
diverts our collective neurons from focusing on what really matters...

-Mark




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