ops - didn't see the rest of your post which I will reply to ON list after 
lunch but YES I do think any radiation or reaction that INITIATES inside the 
cavity will downshift on the exit path!

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From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities!


If ZPE radiation is being upshifted in a cavity then the Reifenschweiler effect 
would more likely be an increase in the decay rate, not a decrease. This is 
because the nucleus would be over-stimulated in the sense of the induced gamma 
effect, and it would decay faster, not slower.

If seems more likely that radiation is being neither upshifted or downshifted, 
at least in the Reifenschweiler effect.

Unlike many observers, I see the decay rate of the tritium in the Casimir 
cavity (from the perspective of the tritium itself) as NOT changing !

...but instead some of the beta decay is being ported into a ZPE "sink" 
instead, so it only appears to us, outside the cavity ,that the decay rate it 
is slower than it was.

IOW some of the radiation goes into Dirac 'reciprocal space' or a correlate, 
and we simply do not see it in 3-space, but from the standpoint of the rate 
itself and the tritium itself - nothing has changed.

This can explain the Rossi heating effect when you substitute IRH (inverted 
Rydberg hydrogen) for tritium. More on that later.

Jones


From: Roarty, Francis X

Robin,
                I had the same original "displacement" concept until recently 
and I think it is roughly equivalent to the "up shifted" term Scott and Thomas 
introduced me to. The issue with the "displacement" concept is it carries with 
it   an image of a vacant portion of space where the displaced wavelength used 
to reside. While my relativistic theory doesn't exactly match either concept 
the "up shifted" concept Thomas Prevenslik first introduced me to comes from a 
thermal dynamic perspective of Casimir effect - I used to consider this the 
"other" camp for Casimir theory vs. the "displacement" camp that I was more 
comfortable with - Thomas comes at this from a  perspective of thermal dynamics 
and will argue the plates are not "pushed" together and that ether doesn't need 
to exist to explain the effect, he explains the effect as an imbalance created 
by "up shifting" causing the plates to self attract.  Although  my 
"relativistic" concept  now represents a new 3rd option/camp I chose to refer 
to the "up shifting" version as the alternative because it already deals with 
what I consider a misconception of there being a "vacancy" - the energy 
summation is still reduced because energy content reduces with wavelength until 
some cutoff frequency beyond which it is meaningless to integrate, therefore an 
up shifted spectrum will also sum to a lower energy total.  For a while I just 
went with the idea that the vacancy got filled in with shorter wavelengths but 
the "up shifted" concept already handles that issue plus it is an easier 
transition to the  "relativistic" concept because it already has the same 
remote perspective of faster wavelengths inside the cavity... the only thing it 
lacked was my position that the wavelengths would appear unchanged to a local 
observer in the cavity... which as I have said previously is more in keeping 
with the changes in energy density, anomalous increases in C transition time 
thru the cavity as measured externally and
Claims of variation of radioactive decay rates.
Regards
Fran



Re: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities!
mixent
Wed, 04 May 2011 00:28:40 -0700
In reply to  francis 's message of Tue, 3 May 2011 06:09:29 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>Scott and I have collaborated and communicated at length regarding a Casimir
>theory based on relativistic contraction of the longer vacuum wavelengths
>which still appear full length to an observer inside the cavity instead of
>the present theory where the longerwavelengths are simply upshifted to
>higher frequency inside the cavity.


As I understand it, they are not normally upshifted. They are excluded
altogether, because they are too long to fit in the cavity. It's precisely
because they are excluded that they press on the outside, but not on the inside
walls of the cavity, hence producing a pressure that pushes the walls together.
Only the wavelengths greater than the cavity dimensions are responsible for
this, and since these represent but a minute fraction of the total, the force is
very small, until the walls get very close together. That's because as they
approach one another, the excluded wavelengths get shorter and shorter,
representing an ever increasing amount of vacuum energy.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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