How about giving a few examples of the sort of answer you'd find satisfactory?


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On May 25, 2011, at 20:33, "Mark Iverson" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Robin beat me to the punch... I was changing spark-plugs and serpentine belts 
> on my car!
> 
> Robin hits the nail on the head... Anything mathematical is the MODEL, and is 
> supposed to reflect
> physical reality.  My question was about the physical world -- what I was 
> asking got was a rational,
> qualitative, cause and effect sort of explanation.
> 
> As Robin stated, twice now, and I'll state it a third time, 
> "The perpendicular nature of E and B fields existed PRIOR to Maxwell, or even 
> cavemen, or even life
> on this planet!"
> 
> I'm afraid that this reflects very poorly on JC's understanding of what is 
> more fundamental, the
> experiment (physical reality, facts) or model (theory).  JC has shown a great 
> ability to regurgitate
> what he has read in his textbooks, in great detail, but his responses to this 
> simple question seems
> to indicate that he hasn't any idea of the difference between physical 
> reality and the mathematical
> models that attempt to explain what is observed.
> 
> Care to put your horse before the cart this time and give it another stab, 
> Joshua?  
> And you'd better not have any mathematical jargon in your answer...
> 
> PS: I mean, stab at explaining perpendicularity of E and B fields, not stab 
> your horse!
> :-)
> 
> -Mark 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 4:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?
> 
> In reply to  Joshua Cude's message of Wed, 25 May 2011 17:54:32 -0500:
> Hi,
> [snip]
>> Maxwell's equations were developed to describe laboratory electricity 
>> and magnetism experiments.
> 
> ...from which the peculiar perpendicular nature of the phenomenon was already 
> evident.
> 
>> The resulting equations then predicted the existence of electromagnetic 
>> waves with the correct speed. As Maxwell put it: "The conclusion was 
>> inescapable: light is "an electromagnetic disturbance in the form of 
>> waves" propogated in the ether."
> 
> True.
> 
>> The equations also require that the
>> field are perpendicular.
> 
> I think that was already evident from the experiments, and the maths was 
> designed specifically to
> encompass this fact (otherwise it would have yielded incorrect results).
> 
> Note that Maxwell actually brought together the work done by a number of 
> others and created an
> encompassing mathematical treatment of their work, but the perpendicular 
> aspect was already in that
> work.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Robin van Spaandonk
> 
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> 

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