On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Jouni Valkonen <[email protected]>
 wrote:

> If considered that in E-Cat there is constantly flowing cool water to
> replenish boiled water, then it is quite obvious that 2.5 kilowatt is
> very much possible with Mats' E-Cat.



I disagree. Heating the constant flow of cool water (at 1 g/L) to the
boiling point consumes 300W in Lewan's experiment. That can be calculated.
That leaves 2.2 kW for steam production, to be compared directly with the
video. Even if you consider the two plumes to be similar, Lewan's claim is
at least a factor of 2 too high. 2.5 kW is not very much possible.

But the plume in Lewan's video seems far smaller than the in the kitchen
video, meaning that a small increase in the power by Rossi when he is
off-camera can easily explain the observations.

The thing about the 4 or 5 or 10 kW claims is that they make faking it much
more difficult, because ordinary mains circuits don't usually supply that
kind of power. Once you reduce these claims into the kW or few hundred watt
range, then some simple power or flow rate misrepresentations is all it
takes.

However Steven's E-Cat was
> malfunctioning while video was shot.
>

Has Rossi made this excuse, or have you taken to making excuses for him?


>
> That stove was quite modern, therefore it is likely that around 90% of
> heat goes for boiling water, because it is good idea to design stoves
> that produces as little as possible waste heat.


The stove design has nothing to do with how much heat is captured by the
pot. You can see the heating element. That means IR is quite clearly
escaping. Look at the trouble Rossi went to to insulate his ecat, so that
all the heat went in to the water. In the kitchen video, heat escapes before
it enters the pot, and the pot itself is not insulated, and quite large, and
will also lose heat.

  This is the only reasonable way to calculate the power

> output. Because we know that this kind of setup produces DRY STEAM and
> we can calculate the power directly from the reduced mass of the pot.
>

Drier steam, presumably, but a boiler typically produces 5% wet steam. In
the write-up, they say they produced both dry and wet steam.

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