At 12:07 PM 7/18/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
On 2011-07-17 21:16, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
And this was Rossi's answer:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=497&cpage=16#comment-53792
It looks like Rossi has updated his answer on
JONP, without adding a note about that. I
personally find this "phantom editing" behavior
despicable, but that's the way he communicates
to the public after all. This is what the comment looks like now:
Let's see what he changed.
Here was the original, at least what was quoted here:
Dear Paul Story:
Very funny: this clown, named Julian Brown,
wrote me saying he was an officer of the Patent
Office and that he wanted give me suggestions.
I received him to get those suggestions,
curious to know about what he had to suggest. I
was working in my Bologna lab when I received
him ahd he saw one E-Cat under test for no more
that 30 seconds, after which I invired hin to
exit. He made no tests, he saw nothing, he just
has taken a 30 seconds glance at a totally
closed box. He saw nothing, I said nothing.
We agreed, after a short meeting, that he would
have mailed to me a text of a patent that he
thought would have many probabilities to be
accepted. After some day I received from this
clown some text simply ridiculous, and in these
text there was written that my patent
text removed (altered)
was based on patents made from my competitors.
I made a research and discovered that the
patents of my competitors he referred to had
not been granted, but had been refused. Of
course he has been sent from such competitors
to spy and to try to mess up with patents.
Conclusion: he lies when he says he made a
test, he lies when he says he has seen an E-Cat
enough to say anything about it (just has taken
a 30 seconds look), he lies if he says he has
seen the steam, he saw nothing because the
circuit was ermetically closed, he lies when he says that
[text altered:]
he is or has been an officer of the Patent Office,
he lies when he says he is an expert of
patents, he lies when he says that my
Competitor he works with has a patent on this matter granted in 1995.
It is clear that somebody, desperate of the
fact that a 1 MW plant is close to be started
up, is trying to use all the method of a snake
to try to put clubs in the wheels. But all this
is just clownery: my plants will give evidence
in the real marlet of the validity of my effect.
It is also clear that at this point I cannot
give any more info or courtesy visit before the start up of my 1 MW plant.
This is the new text (as quoted by Akira, I haven't verified it).
Andrea Rossi
July 17th, 2011 at 1:54 PM
Dear Paul Story:
Very funny: this clown, named Julian Brown,
wrote me saying he was an officer of the Patent
Office and that he wanted give me suggestions.
I received him to get those suggestions,
curious to know about what he had to suggest. I
was working in my Bologna lab when I received
him and he saw one E-Cat under test for no more
that 30 seconds, after which I invited him to
exit. He made no tests, he saw nothing, he just
has taken a 30 seconds glance at a totally
closed box. He saw nothing, I said nothing,
[text added:]
also because he inspired me no trust, because
said he is a Quantum Physicist, but said so much
stupidities that not even a 13 years old student
of middle school could say, so I understood he was an impostor.
We agreed, after a short meeting, that he would
have mailed to me a text of a patent that he
thought would have had many probabilities to be accepted:
[text added:]
I was very baffled, because I could not
understand how an officer of the European Patent
Office could behave like that: he asked me to be
paid by my companyâs shares in change of his help!
After some day I received from this clown
[text added:]
( who until that moment spoke only positively of all what he saw)
some text, simply ridiculous, for a new patent
[text added:]
(I conserve the copies, of course)
and in these texts there was written that my patent was
[text altered/added]
to be based on an already granted patent made
from one competitor of mine, obviously a âfriendâ of his.
I made a research and discovered that the
patent of my competitor he referred to had not
been granted, but had been refused. Of course he has been
sent from such competitor to spy and to try to mess up with patents.
[text added:]
I wrote him a mail inviting him not to contact
me again: he was clearly an impostor. At this
point he made the comment on Ecatnews
Conclusion: he lies when he says he made a
test, he lies when he says he has seen an E-Cat
enough to say anything about it (just has taken
a 30 seconds look), he lies if he says he has
seen the steam, he saw nothing because the
circuit was ermetically closed, he lies when he says that
[text added/altered]
he is an officer of the Patent Office (if he is,
he made a crime, because he asked me, in change
of his help, shares of Leonardo Corporation),
he lies when he says he is an expert of
patents, he lies when he says that my
competitor he works with has a patent on this matter granted in 1995.
It is clear that somebody, desperate of the
fact that a 1 MW plant is close to be started
up from us, is trying to use all the methods of
a snake to try to put clubs in the wheels. But
all this is just clownery: my plants will give
evidence in the real market of the validity of my effect.
It is also clear that at this point I cannot
allow any more info or courtesy visit before the start up of my 1 MW plant.
[text added:]
I have evidence, registrations and witnesses of
all what I wrote here: BY THE WAY, ALL MY LABS
AND FACTORIES, FOR SECURITY ISSUES, ARE SUPPLIED
BY HIDDEN CAMERAS AND MICROPHONES TO REGISTER
EVERYTHING WHICH HAPPENS AND IS SAID INSIDE.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
So he now says he's got evidence backing up his statements about JB.
I wonder if he will actually use that.
Well, either Mr. Brown is in deep do-do, or
Andrea Rossi may have made him a rich man (if the
effect is real and Rossi becomes a reasonable
target for collection on a libel suit). Only
Brown and Rossi really know here, at this point.
Mr. Brown is strongly advised to consult a
competent attorney, because if he really does
work for the EPO, his job is quite possibly at
risk. He could also face prosecution for a
criminal violation, it's completely unclear to me
what legal obligations he might have as an
"employee" of the patent office, and precisely
what he told Rossi. Did he represent himself as
being able to exert influence, or was this just
advice on drafting a patent? Rossi claims to have
recordings. If Brown didn't say what Rossi
claims, I'd suggest Brown may want those
recordings *immediately* subpoenaed. If he did
say that, and if what he said was, in fact,
illegal, slinking quietly away may be in order.
What I do *not* recommend is slinking away if he
didn't say those things, because he could easily
suffer the damages anyway. Brown already
requested that his blog comment be removed,
because of the hassle, or something, already appearing.
Looks like Jed has been in contact with Brown.
Jed might then know if this really was Brown, the
physicist, and if Brown actually is employed by the EPO.
I'll say this: there was a patent attorney at the
MIT LANR Conference in May. That attorney,
completely independently, as I recall, said some
of the same things that Rossi may have been told
by Brown. Many people have pointed out problems
with Rossi's patents, they could easily be
useless. Indeed, this could explain, if Rossi
knows this, why he's emphasizing secrecy,
protecting his trade secret by making E-Cats
self-destruct if opened. That's not necessary if the secret is patentable.
