At 10:55 AM 7/22/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Damon Craig <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:

The key word is boyancy. What is the densest thing you have ever seen floating in a vapor of steam, Joshua?

I'll answer that, I've never seen anything floating in any kind of steam, except for water droplets, which I see as mist.

I don't claim to have seen 97% wet steam (by mass); I claim its existence in the ecat is entirely plausible -- even likely. In any case, even styrofoam is denser than 97% wet steam (by mass), and I don't know any solids with lower density than that.

Joshua is very correct, here, high percentage steam, by mass, is still far lower percentage by volume, and therefore remains low-density.

Arrggh. I just realized that I've seen *very* high percentage steam, and, yes, things float in it. It's called "boiling water," and it contains bubbles of water vapor.

With continuous agitation, one could make any percentage "steam" one wants. When it becomes dense enough, it will merely fall quickly to the bottom of any vessel, leaving dryer steam at the top and less foamy water at the bottom....

As to plausibility for the e-cat, extremely high percentage liquid by mass seems implausible to me except as a fraud mode. Could be, and probably isn't.


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