Am 03.09.2011 22:59, schrieb Jed Rothwell:

Rossi was upset by Krivit's conclusions from these interviews, and his long report. So was I. I thought in particular he distorted Levi's statements about the purpose of the 18-hour test, and the reasons Levi does not plan to publish the results. As I said some weeks ago, this resembles Mizuno's large heat after death event, described in his book, and summarized here:

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTnucleartra.pdf

This event was irrefutable proof of a massive, self-sustaining nuclear reaction. Mizuno has never had any doubt whatever about that. Unless Mizuno is liar or a lunatic, I have no doubt about it either. This event was far more convincing than, for example, all of the experiments done by McKubre combined. Unfortunately, the instrumentation was not very good for reasons beyond Mizuno's control, and there is no chance any journal would publish anything about this.
I think publication and documentation is useless when the experiment cannot be repeated.

Think about Otto Hahn and Lise Meitner: They hoped to find transuran elements. So they started with a wrong theory and finally they found nuclear fission of uran. Of course their instrumentation was much more primitive than the instruments that we have today. If their experiments wouldnt have been repeatable then they would never have been accepted.

But the experiments where repeatable and so it was researched and finally scientifically proven.

Think about Madam Curie and Pierre Curie. They had a theory and finally they had Radium. Now, this emmitted light, it triggered photochemic reactions, it had higher temperature than the environment and finally it was shown that it lost mass over time. So they worked a long time, but their result was demonstratable and repeatable.

This makes me a little bit sceptic about LENR. They research for 20 years now and still have no repeatable results. If it annot be repeated then it cannot be measured or demonstrated or researched.
They have tons of theory and a lot of believe.
I am an outsider, and to me the LENR community appears like a religion that is divided in multiple sects that friendly or hostile compete. All they have more or less credible reports about miracles, but cannot repepeat or demonstrate them.
LENR has all psychosocial attributes that you can find in a religion.
Sometimes I think it might be a psychological phenomen of mass(self)hypnosis.

Repeatability at will is the keypoint. Theories and single anecdotes and miracles are much less important. So, if Rossis experiments are repeatable, this would be phantastic and a point where serious aknowledgement and research can start.

Best, Peter


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