The AC might be creating some heat without the current dissipating. Such a violation of theory would not be apparent when so much effort and energy is used to keep the SC below the critical temperature.
Harry On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Michele Comitini <[email protected]> wrote: > RF cavity is used in particle accelerators. Those things are AC yet > they dissipate very little, if I recall correctly a stationary RF in > one > of those lasts for months. They spend more energy for keeping things cool. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Radio_Frequency > > mic > > 2011/10/19 Higgins Bob-CBH003 <[email protected]>: >> Say that initially the superconductor was brought into its SC state not in >> the presence of magnetic fields. At that time there are nominally no >> supercurrents. As you bring the SC into the presence of a magnet a >> supercurrent must form that previously did not exist to prevent penetration >> of the magnetic field into the superconductor. This is not a DC >> supercurrent because it has not existed in steady state for all time. >> Initially there will be some loss in the supercurrent because there are >> components that are not DC. At least that’s my understanding. I asked a >> guy at CERN about this in how they bring up their strong supercurrent in >> their superconducting electromagnets. It is not a simple process. >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Wm. Scott Smith [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:28 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [Vo]:S-C currents not DC? >> >> >> >> How are S-C currents not DC? >> >> ________________________________ >> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:19:59 -0400 >> >> thanks for the info >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Higgins Bob-CBH003 <[email protected]> >> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wed, Oct 19, 2011 8:48 am >> Subject: RE: [Vo]:quantum levitation >> >> Note that superconductors have zero resistance only for DC. At all >> frequencies >> >> above DC, the resistance is finite and there is penetration. Consider also >> that >> >> true DC extends from time -infinity to +infinity as a constant. Moving the >> >> superconductor in a magnetic field does create resistance because the >> >> supercurrents are not DC. >> >> >> >> Bob Higgins >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:27 PM >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation >> >> >> >> Is it posible the RF signal is warming the superconductor just above >> >> the critical temperature so that it drops? >> >> >> >> >> >> Harry >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:48 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> A new understanding of flux pinning is the most important relation in 100 >> >>> years. The magnet floats on the superconductor. Apply an RF field of 10 >> >>> mega hertz to a small disk and the magnet drops. That what I saw, so >>> what >> >>> you say. Now we know how energy is released. Energy is pinned with the >> >>> atom by the same mechanism, discontinuities. Where are >>> the discontinuities >> >>> in the atom, here there are below. >> >>> >>> http://academic.research.microsoft.com/Publication/10710753/the-elastic-limit-of-space-and-the-quantum-condition >> >>> What can you predict knowing the observed release condition? Try the >>> energy >> >>> levels of the hydrogen atom, the intensity of spectral emission, >> >>> the distribution of electrons in the atom, and the frequency and energy of >> >>> the photon. see below >> >>> >>> http://academic.research.microsoft.com/Publication/10755558/the-control-of-the-natural-forces >> >>> If you are so bright, where is your peer reviewed paper. Here it is >>> below. >> >>> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1875389211006092 >> >>> >> >>> An understating of flux pinning and flux release has the potential >> >>> to transform the study of physics and our society. That my story >> >>> and I am sticking to it, no matter what Jones says. >> >>> Frank Znidarsic >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: fznidarsic <[email protected]> >> >>> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >> >>> Sent: Tue, Oct 18, 2011 7:20 pm >> >>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> All this talk of pinning is just fine, but all of this is nicely predicted >> >>> by the basic laws of electrical induction and the zero resistivity offered >> >>> by a superconductor, you would expect repulsion or attraction to occur. >> >>> >> >>> No it is not. This flux pinning thing is a big deal. The same mechanism >> >>> accounts for the pinning of flux in a superconductor accounts for the >>> energy >> >>> levels of the atom. >> >>> A solution that includes both provides for a classical foundation for >> >>> quantum physics. >> >>> Flux is pinned in the nucleus too. An understanding of the >> >>> release mechanism provides for a new understanding of the cold fusion >> >>> reaction. >> >>> Flux is pinned at discontinuities. It is shook free by a vibration at a >> >>> dimensional frequency of 1,094,000 meters/second. Thats it. >> >>> I did the experiment with the superconductor, Horace now has it. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Frank Znidarsic >> >>> >> >>> >> >> > >
