Am 08.11.2011 15:56, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat:
These is a very descriptive write of of the Piantelli process in the
patent application I referenced. Link here:
http://www.wipo.int/patentscope/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2010058288&recNum=1&docAn=IB2009007549&queryString=ALLNAMES:%28piantelli%29&maxRec=1
There is nothing specific written about the nuclear mechanism.
He writes:"causing the atoms of the metal to capture the hydrogen ions,
with liberation of heat, preferably in the presence of a gradient of
temperature on the active core".
Hydrogen Ions are protons and are positively charged. The nickel nucleus
is also positively charged and so both repel.
Mainstream physics therefore says it is impossible to fuse the nuclei.
Look up "Coloumb wall" in wikipedia for this. It is the big problem how
to overcome the coloumb wall and there are several non mainstream
theories how this could been achieved but most are not accepted by
mainstream science.
It is believed by mainstream physics, something like this can happen in
stars "white dwarfs" under very high pressure but on earth it is impossible.
LENR researchers believe this can happen, when the protons are inside a
metal lattice. There is a mechanism "tunneling" that can make it
possible. Other ways would be high pressures in microscopical clusters
inside the metal or resonance effects or whatever. Other ways would be
if a hydrogen atom could be converted into a neutron.
The patent does not say, how fusion is achieved, there is no specific
mechanism explained.
Therefore this would not pass a peer review by mainstream scientists.
There is no theory presented in the document, only some unclear
assumptions that are not proven to be true.
Is this the latest?
The newer patents of Piantelli are not published now.
I cannot say, if this is the latest patent. I read everything I find,
but I have no systematic list of documents.
Best,
Peter
AG
On 11/9/2011 1:05 AM, [email protected] wrote:
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Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat<[email protected]>
An: [email protected]
Datum: 08.11.2011 15:17
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I'm on my 2nd read of the Piantelli patent application WO 2010/058288
Al. I'm starting to understand the nuclear process he is describing. Is
this for real? To me it seems logical and simple to understand but then
I'm not a physicists. Has this nuclear fusion like exchange of
Piantelli's been peer reviewed? If so can you please provide a link to
the paper or the paper itself?
I must say, I am absolutely not involved in nuclear physics. Know
only the very basics.
So I am no one who could give advice.
NASA has investigated the Piantelli research and they favorize the so
called "Widom Larsen" theory.
Easy to find, but others could give you direct pointers. I must
search myself.
Rossi does strictly deny the Widom Larsen theory.
Possibly his reason is, because this was made by a competitor.
He is not a scientist and does not think like a scientist.
I think there is currently no LENR theory that is fully acknowledged
by mainsteam physicists.
The Piantelli group has announced to release a theory that is not in
conflict with existing physics.
So far I know, they want to do this in 1st quarter 2012, but who
knows, if it will happen.
Best, Peter
