I always appreciate it when someone lays bare their honest thoughts.  I salute 
you for this Peter.

One major issue that you have left out is that Rossi, and the others you 
mention have performed hundreds if not thousands of tests in private.  The 
public demonstrations are a very minor component of the
data set that they have to work with.  We are seriously hampered by this 
system, but it is the evidence that is offered to us.

All of the scientists and engineers you discuss would be demented if they did 
not have additional backup data.  We are left out of the main loop for 
commercial reasons.

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: peter.heckert <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 15, 2011 3:37 am
Subject: [Vo]:Cold fusion - thoughts


Hello,
First, let me point out, this is not about Rossi and e-cat.
t is not about Piantelli.
What I honestly think about them:
Piantelli & Focardi & sometimes Stremmenos never made true caloric 
measurements, 
t least not in these papers that I have read.
iantelli has only measured temperature gradients in metal.
hat he has really found is explained by anomalous heatpipe effects and 
eatstorage effects in metal hydrides.
What Rossi & Forcardi & Stremmenos have found is false energy due to Rossis 
ndisclosed chaotic methods of steam calorimetry and thermoelement placement.
 think they all are chaos scientists and make a dishonest public war for 
nvestment capital on the burden of us all.
iantelli owns all of the previous patents, but they have worked together and 
ost probably they are now hostile because of financial differences. (Same as 
ith defkalion)
 dont believe they have found anything real.
f I am in error, then it is up them to prove me false, this should be easy with 
o much energy generated.
o lets forget them. 
hey dont bring progress, they are mad scientific chaots who confuse everything 
nd polarize the community.
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 had thoughts why LENR effects have bad repeatability.
ossibly the researchers all make a fundamental error.
hey choose arrangements where hydrogen difusses easy into metals. If it goes in 
asy it goes out easy.
Fusion effects should be most probable if hydrogen is captured in a metal 
attice where is cannot easy go in and cannot easy go out. Under these 
ircumstances it should be possible to get very high pressures if the metall 
atice is magnetically, thermically or by chemical reactions distorted.
o the LENR-Effects should be caused by unintentional impurities in the 
alladium or nickel lattice.
usion does not take place in palladium or Nickel, these are only spilling 
aterials to transport the hydrogen or deuterium into other microscopic 
mpurities where the actual fusion finally happens.
Its just a thought, but based on observed facts - unexpained bad repeatability 
f LENR effects.
best regards,
Peter


  

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