On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:

> ... but all of his choices seem risky. ...
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But that's the thing.  They are not.  Performing a completely thorough
test, as Rossi was advised to do, is not risky even in public.  Certainly
it is not as risky as a sale.

Neither is a secret test performed by a university certified for example
for "secret clearance" (or whatever that's called outside of the US).  The
university could be allowed to report the method and result of the test,
including detailed data, without revealing anything about confidential
aspect of construction or contents of internal parts.  That's the "test
independently as a black box idea".

Even if all tests were secret, if they were done by independent and
credible organizations, Rossi could then get another reliable party on the
scale and of the scope of Microsoft or Google, General Electric, General
Atomic, Oracle, you name it -- he could get anybody he wanted to make the
production devices for him, help him get certification, the sky would be
the limit.

It would not be a case of what we have now -- arguable and somewhat bizarre
incomplete tests done for a few scientists and reporters,  using at first
what seemed like -- I won't say what I think here -- let's just say a
strange collection of corroded and ill aligned copper tubes wrapped with
inexpensive insulation.

It would be a case of cold fusion come to maturity and general acceptance.
That isn't what Rossi did though, is it?

By the way, have you seen Krivit's claim that Quantum and NASA were both
shown Rossi's machine, attempted to test it their way, were thwarted by
Rossi and left in disgust?  Or that Rossi asked for millions of dollars
before the tests were even completed.

I hope this isn't redundant-- I have not seen it specifically discussed
here yet.  It's in a response to responses to a blog article. You may need
to scroll down to it here:

http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/11/12/swedish-public-radio-turns-spotlight-on-lewan-and-ny-teknik/#comments

If you need to search, it starts "1. Rossi has publicly told all his fans
that he will not ask for money until he has a product for sale"  ...  etc.
etc.

The way it's put about Quantum and NASA is news to me.  Of course, I have
no way to verify it.  Anyone know for sure if it went down that way?

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